[Brenda]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

Brenda Brenda:

So spreading your legs for your husband so he gives you the pay check so you can take care of the kids is fine, but when there is no husband, spreading your legs for a pay check is wrong?

The way you ask that question does not suggest a relationship of love so that too is wrong. Why do you need sex to have money? Why should there be such an agreement in a relationship? That is a hallmark of a highly unhealthy relationship in my opinion.

And reality for a lot of people.

$1:

$1:

Other than that, what makes you think that when a woman sells her body for sex she's gotten lost in "our male-dominated society"?
She is not obliged to do anything the "dominant male" wants her to do, and can set very strict rules. SHE is the one setting the rules.

She feels it's a good idea to sacrifice herself for the perverted whims of some stranger. Our society not only honours such a practice but allows it to thrive. Women are subjected to men and wind up in situations like this.

She doesn't sacrifice herself for the perverted whims of some stranger. She makes a living with what many people do on a voluntary basis on a Saturday night: having sex with strangers.

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$1:

We are not talking about a crack whore here, who prostitutes herself to support her addiction, and will do everything to get her high on.

We don't know her situation. I don't care if she's as wealthy as Bill Gates, it's depressing to see.

Why? Because she sells her "skills"?
It wouldn't be my choice (nor was it), because I gave it away for free when I was a tad younger than she is. Who is the immoral one, she or me?

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I'm sorry guys, I think we have a clear contrast of morality here.

Nah, I think you are just naive. Sex sells and it makes the world go round.

[Guy_Fawkes]

Working and making your own money give you independence from your parents. Whether that be the nanny state, or good ol'Mom and Pop. No one should be allowed to live in the basement forever, that some people do is the real tragedy. Now I wont go so far as to weep for the lazy SOBs, but I do have concern for their ability to accept the least that life has to offer.

[Public_Domain]

[Gunnair]

Brenda Brenda:

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

Brenda Brenda:

Every day when you go to your boss, do the tasks he expect you to, and go back home with a pay-check, you are doing the same. You sell yourself, your time and your skills for the price you 2 agreed upon.

Her skill is her virginity, her offer is 4 days, her asking price is $15k. How is that different from any other job?

I didn't think this would have to be said but I oppose the same ritual in the workplace.

So you do not want to work because you think that is slavery?
How do you think to pay your bills then?

We've already established that it's Mom right now followed by you and me when she tires of him.

[Zipperfish]

Too much. For 15G's I can rent the honeymoon sweet at Astoria, load it with hookers and do lines off of Lindsay Lohan's ass.

[Guy_Fawkes]

Brenda Brenda:

Nah, I think you are just naive. Sex sells and it makes the world go round.

... up and down, in and out, and some times explode if you are so lucky.

All sex is based on exchange, be it emotional or monetary. More often then not (at least in western society) women are the bankers. Men are just the 99%

[Public_Domain]

[Gunnair]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:

Im calling bullshit, if all you say was true. You would only work enough hours a week to keep yourself clothed, fed and sheltered. That means no extravagances like internet.

I have a feeling you enjoy every cent you work for and if they gave you a raise you would work the same hours if not more.

My life won't have much extravagance and I'm fine with it. Just because I work for perhaps a lot of money at some point doesn't mean I enjoy the job nor enjoy the process.

I don't enjoy my money. I hoard it though and try not to spend it on anything. I listen to those conservatives who go on about blaming yourself for not having money, so I'm very tight with my money.

Just because I oppose the process does not mean I'll participate in it; I have to. And if I need to participate more so I can keep a roof over my head, I will regardless of my morals. Don't ever confuse me for being happy about it though.

Not much point of having such lofty principles if you aren't prepared to stand by them now is there?

[Gunnair]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Too much. For 15G's I can rent the honeymoon sweet at Astoria, load it with hookers and do lines off of Lindsay Lohan's ass.

Note that... I know what's happening to you in Crete!

[Guy_Fawkes]

I cant wait until MC starts getting some regular tail... it will be quite interesting to see what is outlook on sex will be.

[Public_Domain]

[Guy_Fawkes]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:

Im calling bullshit, if all you say was true. You would only work enough hours a week to keep yourself clothed, fed and sheltered. That means no extravagances like internet.

I have a feeling you enjoy every cent you work for and if they gave you a raise you would work the same hours if not more.

My life won't have much extravagance and I'm fine with it. Just because I work for perhaps a lot of money at some point doesn't mean I enjoy the job nor enjoy the process.

I don't enjoy my money. I hoard it though and try not to spend it on anything. I listen to those conservatives who go on about blaming yourself for not having money, so I'm very tight with my money.

Just because I oppose the process does not mean I'll participate in it; I have to. And if I need to participate more so I can keep a roof over my head, I will regardless of my morals. Don't ever confuse me for being happy about it though.

Not much point of having such lofty principles if you aren't prepared to stand by them now is there?

I agree, even the fact that he hoards his money and does not donate it speaks volumes. Not very communist at all...

[Public_Domain]

[Brenda]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

Brenda Brenda:

Why? Because she sells her "skills"?
It wouldn't be my choice (nor was it), because I gave it away for free when I was a tad younger than she is. Who is the immoral one, she or me?

She is. Sex is a contract of love and should be used only as such. I can't imagine participating in it for any other reason.

Oh how I love your naivety...

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$1:

Nah, I think you are just naive. Sex sells and it makes the world go round.

It should not be that way. Sex should be an emotional experience with a lot of meaning for anyone experiencing it. Selling it devalues it.

Love and sex have nothing to do with each other. You can love without sex and have sex without love.
Having sex, and climax is a chemical reaction in the brain. Nothing more, nothing less.

Making love is a whole different ball game. If you think that having sex and making love are the same thing, you are wrong.

[Gunnair]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

Gunnair Gunnair:

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

My life won't have much extravagance and I'm fine with it. Just because I work for perhaps a lot of money at some point doesn't mean I enjoy the job nor enjoy the process.

I don't enjoy my money. I hoard it though and try not to spend it on anything. I listen to those conservatives who go on about blaming yourself for not having money, so I'm very tight with my money.

Just because I oppose the process does not mean I'll participate in it; I have to. And if I need to participate more so I can keep a roof over my head, I will regardless of my morals. Don't ever confuse me for being happy about it though.

Not much point of having such lofty principles if you aren't prepared to stand by them now is there?

I'm a communist; I stand by my principles by telling people there are better ways for people to relate than through monetary means while living in a world of only monetary means. Would you prefer I wear nothing but leaves in the mean time?

If the extent of standing by your principles is haranguing people on an internet forum and chatting with like-minded slackers over a bong then you've set the bar low enough to meet the expectations.

Frankly, there's a guy in Victoria who sounds a lot like you - gave up on the system but he chose to leave aside money, shelter, and his job. He sleeps in a tent, lives off whatever scarps he can get, and generally is beholden to no one. When he breaks the camping by-law (which he does regularly) and is sent to jail, he hunger strikes until he is released.

No life I would live but at least he abides by his principles.

You admit you don't, so why have them?