[BartSimpson]

fifeboy fifeboy:

So Bart, how does that work. When a private prison fails do they have a liquidation sale. Advertise on afternoon T.V. How much does a floor model prisoner go for?

When a private prison fails the prisoners are removed to another prison and the workers and executives at the private prison get laid off. Pretty much the same thing happens to any private enterprise.

Now just because I have a pragmatic opinion of private prisons doesn't mean I necessarily support them. As a general point I would prefer that government maintain the purview of prisons under the mandate of maintaining order in the nation. I only support private prisons to the extent that their existence serves to encourage government run prisons to improve their standards and efficiencies.

[Freakinoldguy]

Fair enough. Let people grow and consume pot for their personal enjoyment, but growing it for export would still have to be illegal till the States came onboard. Although I don't think that would really reduce the number of inmates in prison by a vast vast amount.

I've been thinking about this crime is down scenario and I have a question. If crime is down so much, why are policing costs rising. In my city the policing costs equate to 20% of the cities budget and I'd assume it's similar across Canada?

So, maybe the overcrowding in prison is due to the fact that the increased police presence has led to alot more criminals being incarcerated, or maybe it's as groups like the John Howard Society would have us believe, that criminals are giving up crime as they age.

But no matter how you cut it we're gonna end up with more prisons, either to properly house the inmates we already have or to put more criminals behind bars and it's gonna cost us money whether it's a private firm or government run institution.

[fifeboy]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

fifeboy fifeboy:

So Bart, how does that work. When a private prison fails do they have a liquidation sale. Advertise on afternoon T.V. How much does a floor model prisoner go for?

When a private prison fails the prisoners are removed to another prison and the workers and executives at the private prison get laid off. Pretty much the same thing happens to any private enterprise.

Damn, I was hoping to get me some workgangs going at half price. My place could use it.

[ShepherdsDog]

Actually the private prisons should be made into vocational camps as well. If you're serving a sentence for two years less a day, for something non violent, you should be entered in an OJT program, to repay society(community service) and help yourself. A GED, if you're not a highschool graduate, should be part of it as well.

[BeaverFever]

Repost: This is what for-profit prisons get you ...

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Pa. Supreme Court Throws Out Thousands of Juvenile Delinquency Cases
By FRANK MASTROPOLO, LAUREN PEARLE and GLENN RUPPEL
Oct. 29, 2009The Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled late Thursday that almost all juvenile delinquency cases heard by an indicted former judge must be thrown out. The ruling means cases heard by former Luzerne County Judge Mark Ciavarella from Jan. 1, 2003 to May 31, 2008 are in question for fairness and impartiality.

Ciavarella faces criminal charges that accuse him of taking millions of dollars in kickbacks from owners of private detention centers in exchange for placing juvenile defendants at their facilities, often for minor crimes.

In one reported case, a college-bound high school student served three weeks in juvenile detention for making fun of the school principal on a Web site.

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Ciavarella and Conahan had allegedly devised a plot to use their positions as judges to pad their pockets. They shut down the old county-run juvenile detention center by first refusing to send kids there and, then, by cutting off funds, choking it out of existence.

They then replaced the facility with a cash cow -- a privately owned lockup built by the judges' cronies -- and forged a deal for the county to pay $58 million for a 10-year period for its use. At the time, Conahan was serving as president judge of the Luzerne County Common Pleas Court, a position that allowed him to control the county-court budget. Ciavarella was the Luzerne County juvenile court judge.


In the judges' original plea deal, they admitted that they took more than $2.6 million in payoffs from the private youth detention center between 2003 and 2006.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/pa-supreme-c ... id=8952028