[CommanderSock]

IMO for jets, we should really be looking at the Eurofighter, Rafales, etc.

For ships, Germans and Swedes are already selling off the shelf stealth corvettes, without any regulations.

[saturn_656]

The same Rafale the French couldn't sell to save their life? No one (other than France) will buy that plane.

The Eurofighter is a bit of a different story, but it's not any cheaper than the F-35 (and everyone seems to be crying about costs).