[Brenda]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

Brenda Brenda:

If the right to privacy would trump any other right, then all ID checks should be cancelled.
So really, WHAT privacy?

What are you trying to ask? I think there is a significant difference between having privacy at a funeral when mourning a loved one and having to show ID at the counter because the clerk thinks you are under 19.

There is no such thing as "right to privacy"... We don't have "privacy" on public property.

How sad it may be, those fucked up morons have the right to say what they think/feel, just like you have the right to tell them they are c*nts.

[Canadian_Mind]

Brenda Brenda:

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

Brenda Brenda:

If the right to privacy would trump any other right, then all ID checks should be cancelled.
So really, WHAT privacy?

What are you trying to ask? I think there is a significant difference between having privacy at a funeral when mourning a loved one and having to show ID at the counter because the clerk thinks you are under 19.

There is no such thing as "right to privacy"... We don't have "privacy" on public property.

How sad it may be, those fucked up morons have the right to say what they think/feel, just like you have the right to tell them they are c*nts.

Actually, I don't have that right, part of the job.

Fine then, ignoring right to privacy, how about a right to be treated with dignity and respect?

[Brenda]

Sorry, no such thing...
You don't even have the right to fresh water and 3 meals a day...

BTW, I DO have that right, so I will tell them for both of us, okay?

[Canadian_Mind]

Brenda Brenda:

Sorry, no such thing...
You don't even have the right to fresh water and 3 meals a day...

BTW, I DO have that right, so I will tell them for both of us, okay?

Our rights as defined are a strangely convoluted mix aren't they?

Fill your boots.

[GreenTiger]

gonavy47 gonavy47:

I hope they don't show up at a funeral that I'm attending.

Yes, if they showed up at any funeral I'm attending God's Grace will leave me and I'll respond in a Non-PC Anti-US Supreme Court Manner.

[Pseudonym]

Lone dissenter - Samuel Alito.

[bootlegga]

martin14 martin14:

The formation of the Patriot Guard Riders
was in response to groups like Westborough.

http://www.patriotguard.org/


Escort and protection for the families.

Good find, from their website;

$1:

Statement regarding the Supreme Court ruling

The Patriot Guard Riders are a 501c3 organization of support and caring for our military members, veterans, and families. Our mission is to stand for them in their loss and grief and help them to know that there are still people who are aware of the sacrifice their families have made and to show our honor and respect for their service.

The PGR mission is only completed at the request of the family. It's a necessary part of our respect for them. It also has nothing to do with any organized hate groups that conduct protests to hurt them. We shield our families with our care and support. While we stand that line or escort, nothing matters to us except our hero and family.

We respect the right to free speech recognized in our country's founding documents. It's one of the freedoms that define America. Many of our members have served and sworn an oath to support these rights. As an organization, we have to respect the decision of the courts and though our membership has diverse views on the limitation of free speech. Such limitations have been established previously to object to "hate speech" that only offers protection to designated individuals or groups.

The true travesty in this is that we would ever need to consider the "right" of someone to protest at the funeral of an American military member that has given their oath and life to defend these rights.

The Patriot Guard Riders will always stand to honor and shield our fallen and their families. Our mission is founded on respect, and honor, and the debt we owe those that protect us.

[Unsound]

If I remember what I've read correctly, they are restricted to picketing on public land outside the cemetary. Cemetary's can tell them to leave if they are on the property I believe.

It is sad that this is even an issue, but I think it was the right decision. It's easy to protect speech we agree with. It's the disgusting objectionable speech that's hard to defend, and therefore all the more important to do so.

[Gunnair]

Unsound Unsound:

If I remember what I've read correctly, they are restricted to picketing on public land outside the cemetary. Cemetary's can tell them to leave if they are on the property I believe.

It is sad that this is even an issue, but I think it was the right decision. It's easy to protect speech we agree with. It's the disgusting objectionable speech that's hard to defend, and therefore all the more important to do so.

Disagree. That same logic means the right to bear arms should allow you to own scuds and frigates.

[Unsound]

My right to be offensive is equivalant to anyone at all being allowed to own weapons of (almost) mass destruction?

[Gunnair]

Unsound Unsound:

My right to be offensive is equivalant to anyone at all being allowed to own weapons of (almost) mass destruction?

Relatively speaking, yes.

[Unsound]

It's that "relatively" that kinda takes the wind out of your argument.

[Gunnair]

Unsound Unsound:

It's that "relatively" that kinda takes the wind out of your argument.

You have the right to say so...

[Bacardi4206]

If they get a right to disrupt funerals and be complete jackass's. That should give others the right to stand directly infront of those dip shits protesting there complete idiocy and retarded points of view. Just like the Supreme Court said, it's about debate. If you are talking just as loud as they are or even louder, nobody will hear what they have to say. You can also block out there "Thank god for dead soldiers" signs with "Up yours religious fanatics" signs.

[Shadow_Flanker]

Hi Regina, Canadian_Mind.

I've been well. How bout you two? How have things been here since I've last been here...what a couple of years ago?

Constitutional rights and freedoms can be tricky subjects to handle. Especially if dragged to into the court system. Yes, the Westboro Baptist Chruch does have the right to freedom of speech, freedom of expression, and the right to peaceful protest according to the U.S. supreme court (with help from the ACLU). However, is what they're doing considered hate speech? This is where things get blurry and tricky.