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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:57 pm
 


Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
17 year old with ambiguous gun history throws eggs at a car and is later gunned down.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:01 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
17 year old with ambiguous gun history throws eggs at a car and is later gunned down.


Live by the sword...

...die by the omelet. 8O


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:42 pm
 


raydan raydan:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
17 year old with ambiguous gun history throws eggs at a car and is later gunned down.


Live by the sword...

...die by the omelet. 8O

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:33 am
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Even if an armed criminal is running away, Georgia's 'Castle Doctrine' does not require a citizen to retreat from a criminal. Under their state law if the driver was assaulted with eggs and then confronted with an armed perpetrator (entirely possible in this case) he would be justified in shooting the criminal even if the criminal were retreating.


That seems quite unbelievable. Can you back that up?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:11 am
 


jason700 jason700:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Even if an armed criminal is running away, Georgia's 'Castle Doctrine' does not require a citizen to retreat from a criminal. Under their state law if the driver was assaulted with eggs and then confronted with an armed perpetrator (entirely possible in this case) he would be justified in shooting the criminal even if the criminal were retreating.


That seems quite unbelievable. Can you back that up?

If we can believe Wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine this onerous piece of legislation does exist.
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A Castle Doctrine (also known as a Castle Law or a Defense of Habitation Law) is an American legal doctrine claimed by advocates to arise from English Common Law[1] that designates one's place of residence (or, in some states, any place legally occupied, such as one's car or place of work) as a place in which one enjoys protection from illegal trespassing and violent attack. It then goes on to give a person the legal right to use deadly force to defend that place (his/her "castle"), and/or any other innocent persons legally inside it, from violent attack or an intrusion which may lead to violent attack. In a legal context, therefore, use of deadly force which actually results in death may be defended as justifiable homicide under the Castle Doctrine.

but it does have some conditions:
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Conditions of use

Each state differs with respect to the specific instances in which the Castle Doctrine can be invoked, and what degree of retreat or non-deadly resistance (if any) is required before deadly force can be used.
In general, one (sometimes more) of a variety of conditions must be met before a person can legally use the Castle Doctrine:
An intruder must be making (or have made) an attempt to unlawfully and/or forcibly enter an occupied home, business or car.
The intruder must be acting illegally—e.g. the Castle Doctrine does not give the right to attack officers of the law acting in the course of their legal duties
The occupant(s) of the home must reasonably believe that the intruder intends to inflict serious bodily harm or death upon an occupant of the home
The occupant(s) of the home must reasonably believe that the intruder intends to commit some other felony, such as arson or burglary
The occupant(s) of the home must not have provoked or instigated an intrusion, or provoked or instigated an intruder to threaten or use deadly force
The occupant(s) of the home may be required to attempt to exit the house or otherwise retreat (this is called the "Duty to retreat" and most self-defense statutes referred to as examples of "Castle Doctrine" expressly state that the homeowner has no such duty)
In all cases, the occupant(s) of the home must be there legally, must not be fugitives from the law, must not be using the Castle Doctrine to aid or abet another person in being a fugitive from the law, and must not use deadly force upon an officer of the law or an officer of the peace while they are performing or attempting to perform their legal duties.
Note: the term "home" is used because most states only apply their Castle Doctrine to a place of residence; however, some states extend the protection to other legally-occupied places such as automobiles and places of business.


Nothing about eggs, but who knows, all that cholesterol in the eggs and the car guy may have been just protecting his health.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:17 am
 


I'm all for make my day laws - somebody breaks into your house, you shouldn't have to wait until he's nearly killed you to shoot him. But, that doesn't include shooting in the back, ie he's retreating, doesn't include him egging your house or your car, any other sort of vandalism or theft, or in that Louisiana case, just walking up your driveway to say trick or treat.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:14 pm
 


fifeboy fifeboy:
Nothing about eggs, but who knows, all that cholesterol in the eggs and the car guy may have been just protecting his health.


Nothing about being allowed to shoot someone in the back while theyère running away from you either.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:16 pm
 


andyt andyt:
Well he deserved it. You don't mess with people carrying guns - he should know that.


Wow, and you're anti-death penalty, eh?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:21 pm
 


Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
I am pretty sure that andyt's comment was completely sarcastic.


Well maybe...


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