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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:14 pm
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:13 am
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada: I will say that I don't believe Marijuana will bring in the amount everyone claims. I also don't think everyone's going to go batshit, even though I know several older people who would smoke it the day it was legal,  I do think the taxation of marijuana will be incredible, but will be largely stunted by the sheer amount who will gladly opt to grow their own. Marc Emery said "Overgrow the Government". More important than the taxation is the profit that won't go to the gangsters anymore. The taxation revenue would be in addition to the savings of ending the war on drugs though. The numbers are very big.
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:04 am
Tried to smoke a doob last summer and coughed my lungs out. I'd make brownies, but I guess I'm just not all that interested as I haven't done that for 25 years. Tried to quit cigs a couple weeks ago and ended up, while wearing TWO 21mg patches, having such a shit-fit because the phones ring incessantly in the office that I smashed all the telephones in my office in a rage So do tell me all the reasons NOT to decriminalize marijuana so I can laugh in your face.
(Started Champix yesterday. I AM going to quit these goddam things)
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:06 am
I think that as it's proven to be no more harmful to users than already legal things like tobacco and alcohol (and any proven ill affects can be counteracted by various means of consumption) that we should have the choice of weather or not we want to do it, we should be able to do it without fear of jail or a criminal record and we should be able to better use the money spent enforcing caveman laws left over from the dark ages and the propaganda pushed down our grandparents/parents throats.
I liked this article for the fact that finally there was a conclusive study of the negative points of prohibition that wasn't conducted by a group with an agenda for pushing one side or the other
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Posts: 21665
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:10 am
Pot isn't healthy if you're smoking it, but the risk is mainly to yourself and it's not that much of a risk unless you're a heavy dope smoker. I've heard experts try to spin that pot is addictive, but from my own experience, I just don't see it. I smoked a lot in high school, some in university, but I just grew out of it. So did most the friends I smoked it with.
That said I've seen pot ruin a couple of lives--it sucks away all your drive to do anything, especially if you do the old "wake and bake." So these guys would be like 30-something and still working at the video store job they got ten years ago. Failure to launch kind of thing.
The only argument I can think of against legalizing it is the shit hemorrhage the US would have. That and because, California and Obama notwithstanding, we've been shifting politically right for the past few years in North America and pot legalization doesn't really fit with the conservative ethic.
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:27 am
$1: That said I've seen pot ruin a couple of lives--it sucks away all your drive to do anything, especially if you do the old "wake and bake." So these guys would be like 30-something and still working at the video store job they got ten years ago. Failure to launch kind of thing.
I feel that people like this would fail in life weather they smoked pot or not. I know plenty of successful people that smoke pot (not wake and bake or 24-7), most of whom have paychecks that make me envious, they just like to puff (or ingest) instead of having a beer at the end of the day. Addition, I know lots of deadbeat assholes going nowhere in life that don't smoke pot too
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Posts: 1681
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:58 am
I say legalize it but have if fall under the same rules of both alcohol and smoking. Meaning you can't smoke and drive, can't smoke it in public buildings or workplaces. Banned from k-12 school grounds.
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andyt
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:04 am
KorbenDeck KorbenDeck: I say legalize it but have if fall under the same rules of both alcohol and smoking. Meaning you can't smoke and drive, can't smoke it in public buildings or workplaces. Banned from k-12 school grounds. Of course - it should be sold in liquor stores, as should cigarettes.
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:11 am
andyt andyt: KorbenDeck KorbenDeck: I say legalize it but have if fall under the same rules of both alcohol and smoking. Meaning you can't smoke and drive, can't smoke it in public buildings or workplaces. Banned from k-12 school grounds. Of course - it should be sold in liquor stores, as should cigarettes. Well yea we want to make money off it, I'd still keep it illegal to grow just like tobacco. That way we can make money off it from start to finish.
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andyt
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:17 am
KorbenDeck KorbenDeck: andyt andyt: KorbenDeck KorbenDeck: I say legalize it but have if fall under the same rules of both alcohol and smoking. Meaning you can't smoke and drive, can't smoke it in public buildings or workplaces. Banned from k-12 school grounds. Of course - it should be sold in liquor stores, as should cigarettes. Well yea we want to make money off it, I'd still keep it illegal to grow just like tobacco. That way we can make money off it from start to finish. Is tobacco illegal to grow? Never heard that. Good luck trying to make pot illegal to grow - it's so easy to grow a plant or two for personal use. But make it illegal to sell, same as tobacco, or alcohol, by private sellers.
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:22 am
herbie herbie: Tried to smoke a doob last summer and coughed my lungs out. I'd make brownies, but I guess I'm just not all that interested as I haven't done that for 25 years. The cons want to make a mandatory minimum of a year and a half in jail for making pot brownies. S-10 is jam packed full of stupid.
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Posts: 21611
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:29 am
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:30 pm
$1: I'd still keep it illegal to grow just like tobacco
Keeping it illegal to grow would encourage the black market more than allowing consumers to grow personal ammounts.
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ASLplease
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Posts: 4183
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:46 pm
KorbenDeck KorbenDeck: I say legalize it but have if fall under the same rules of both alcohol and smoking. Meaning you can't smoke and drive, can't smoke it in public buildings or workplaces. Banned from k-12 school grounds. seems reasonable enough to me.
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:26 pm
herbie herbie: Tried to smoke a doob last summer and coughed my lungs out. I'd make brownies, but I guess I'm just not all that interested as I haven't done that for 25 years. Tried to quit cigs a couple weeks ago and ended up, while wearing TWO 21mg patches, having such a shit-fit because the phones ring incessantly in the office that I smashed all the telephones in my office in a rage So do tell me all the reasons NOT to decriminalize marijuana so I can laugh in your face.
(Started Champix yesterday. I AM going to quit these goddam things) Keep at it and good luck. Like I said, it's going to hurt for awhile, so try to focus it will get easier. ![Drink up [B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif)
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