[andyt]

I'm confused now. The Teabaggers aren't neocons? How do they differ.

[stratos]

andyt andyt:

I'm confused now. The Teabaggers aren't neocons? How do they differ.

Well first off a Teabagger is a slang put down of homasexual activity. Seeing as how you and your fellow Libs insist that conservitives of all ranks and file are anti gay there is no way a Teabagger could be a neocon.

[andyt]

I'm straight. I've been teabagged. I don't see how it's exclusive to gays. No wonder you and your fellow rightwingnuts are so confused.

[rickc]

This is a good thread! Unfortunately for us rightwingers,Thanos has a point.The latest polls show that Coons has 53% of the vote vs. 34% for O'Donnell. That is a big lead for the Democrats. The guy that O'Donnell defeated had a 10 point lead on Coons.We rightwingers may have lost Delaware.

I am gratefull to the teaparty for pushing the GOP back to the right.The GOP lost thier way,and received a much deserved ass kicking in 08. Thats what happens when you turn your back on your powerbase. I remember the Nevada Republican Party calling me for donations back then{donations that they have always been able to count on},I laughed at them. The GOP needed to be taught a lesson in humility. They got one in 08. Did they learn anything? Apparently not. Thus the need for the tea party. The right needs to take back the GOP. We are. My only problem with the tea party is that they do not seem to do background checks on their candidates. O'Donnell seems to be a deadbeat who has trouble paying her student loans,taxes,and home payment.Its hard to run as a fiscal conservative,when you are a deadbeat yourself.

Here in Nevada the tea party candidate has endorsed Sharron Angle {a total unknown} to run against Harry Reid for the senate. I cannot turn on my tv,radio, or computor,without being bombarded with attack ads painting Angle as an exremeist. No complaint from me,thats politics. My complaint is with the total lack of response from the Angle camp. Angle dislikes public speaking,and refuses to debate. If the election would have been held months ago,Angle would have won.Time seems to be on Reids side. The more Reid paints Angle as a nutjob,the more the midstream loses their anger and fear takes over. As much as I despise Reid,he is running a brilliant campaign. The tea party has to make sure that their candidates are not only right wing,but can pass background checks,and not crumble under public scrutiny.

Satan himself could be running against Reid,and he would get my vote.I want the leftwing out of power. I am diehard rightwing. I see several other rightwingers on this site. I see quite a few diehard leftwingers on this site as well. We are diametriclly opposed in our beliefs. One thing we have in common is our committment to our cause. No one is going to change our beliefs. We go to our graves convinced we are right. We wage our wars with the vast undecided masses as our prize.The people who change thier political beliefs like we change our underwear. I still believe that the left is going down hard in the U.S. come Nov. I think they will will look like Spinks in his fight against Tyson. I just wish the elections were held today. The longer we wait,the more some of these tea party candidates will self destruct. The LESS great our victory will be. Lastly if some of these tea party candidates ARE TRULEY nutcases {as is being stated},they have two years to make fools of themselves. We could see the pendulem swing yet again in 2012,in the election that REALLY matters.

[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

I'm confused now. The Teabaggers aren't neocons? How do they differ.

The neo-cons support lower taxes but then they also support massive government bailouts of the banks, massive new government agencies like Homeland Security, massive infringment of people's rights like The Patriot Act, and so on.

The Tea Party people are actual conservatives with a lot of libertarians thrown in.

I'm not on board with the Tea Party myself as I'm waiting to see what happens with them. Will they coalesce into a viable political movement of their own? Will they become a third party? Will they take over the GOP? Will the GOP abandon neo-conservatism in order to re-embrace their base? I don't know.

One thing for sure, they are causing a resurgent interest in activism on both sides of the aisle.

What's next, I believe, is an equivalent to the Tea Party arising on the left to demand that the Democrats abandon their recent love of neo-conservatism.

[Thanos]

I suppose that saying* the TeaBirchers aren't neo-cons (or at least completely supportive of the neo-con belief in constant unending war everywhere) is sort of the same as saying that the KKK were leftists instead if rightists. It makes zero sense, it can't be backed up by any hard evidence at all, and it goes completely against the grain of the 'conservative' brand of politics that's existed in the US since the Cold War began. I imagine that the retrograde nature of the TeaBirchers would eventually veer towards some sort of sympathetic public mutterings about 'bringing the boys back home' a la the isolationist paleocons, but I highly doubt that bringing an existential halt to the national security state or to overseas imperialism has anything to do with it. It's more like Afghanistan and Iraq are now Obama's 'fault' and, as Obama has and always wiil be the Great Satan for the unhunged American right, they might come across as suddenly anti-war in the face of Obama's massive introduction of military resources into Afghanistan.

*But they'll say it anyway, and the mere repetition of it will gather a life of it's own, exactly the way that things somehow manage to do in the moral vacuum of the American rightist fringe. The great lie has worked before, and continues to work today, for those politically craven enough to keep using it as their primary political tactic. The TeaBirchers and the rest of the contemporary American right are simply the best and most recent example of how effective this campaign of non-stop falsehood can be when directed towards the weak-minded and the deeply stupid.



(above video link included for the devious among us who keep falsely claiming that racial animus towards the President isn't the main motivator for the TeaBirchers; lie to yourselves all you want, but please don't lie anymore to the rest of us who can quite easily see right through you)

[rickc]

Thanos Thanos:

I suppose that saying* the TeaBirchers aren't neo-cons (or at least completely supportive of the neo-con belief in constant unending war everywhere) is sort of the same as saying that the KKK were leftists instead if rightists. It makes zero sense, it can't be backed up by any hard evidence at all, and it goes completely against the grain of the 'conservative' brand of politics that's existed in the US since the Cold War began. I imagine that the retrograde nature of the TeaBirchers would eventually veer towards some sort of sympathetic public mutterings about 'bringing the boys back home' a la the isolationist paleocons, but I highly doubt that bringing an existential halt to the national security state or to overseas imperialism has anything to do with it. It's more like Afghanistan and Iraq are now Obama's 'fault' and, as Obama has and always wiil be the Great Satan for the unhunged American right, they might come across as suddenly anti-war in the face of Obama's massive introduction of military resources into Afghanistan.

*But they'll say it anyway, and the mere repetition of it will gather a life of it's own, exactly the way that things somehow manage to do in the moral vacuum of the American rightist fringe. The great lie has worked before, and continues to work today, for those politically craven enough to keep using it as their primary political tactic. The TeaBirchers and the rest of the contemporary American right are simply the best and most recent example of how effective this campaign of non-stop falsehood can be when directed towards the weak-minded and the deeply stupid.



(above video link included for the devious among us who keep falsely claiming that racial animus towards the President isn't the main motivator for the TeaBirchers; lie to yourselves all you want, but please don't lie anymore to the rest of us who can quite easily see right through you)

Come on Thanos,you are an educated man.You need to get off this race-baiting kick. You scour thousands of hours of video to find a snipet of video to make the tea party appear racist. The tea party's success has nothing to do with race,and everything to do with economics. If conservative African American Alan Keys were running for office,he would have my vote.I'm sure a lot of people on the left would be calling him an Uncle Tom,just like they did the last time he ran. Heaven forebid that a black man should run a sucessful bussiness without government interference.He must be a sellout. You had a valid point about some of the tea party candidates being nutjobs earlier in this thread.Sir, I will grant you that.Lets leave race out of this debate. This election is all about economics,it has nothing to do with race.

[Dragom]

rickc rickc:

This election is all about economics,it has nothing to do with race.

I think this round is more about a Comfortable Past vs a Terrifying Future then actual issues like race, economics, war or security.

[BartSimpson]

Thanos Thanos:

(video mocking Obama)

Thanos, the man in the video is wearing an Obama mask. Yes, that means the man is wearing a mask of a black man. That's because, if you haven't noticed, President Obama happens to be black. We like to mock our leaders and just because Obama is black does not mean that he gets a pass and it also does not mean that everyone who mocks him is "racist".

Here's a whole shitload of Obama masks for sale. Are you REALLY going to propose that anyone selling or buying one is racist?

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=oba ... 3&sc=3-10#

[GreenTiger]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Thanos Thanos:

(video mocking Obama)

Thanos, the man in the video is wearing an Obama mask. Yes, that means the man is wearing a mask of a black man. That's because, if you haven't noticed, President Obama happens to be black. We like to mock our leaders and just because Obama is black does not mean that he gets a pass and it also does not mean that everyone who mocks him is "racist".

Here's a whole shitload of Obama masks for sale. Are you REALLY going to propose that anyone selling or buying one is racist?

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=oba ... 3&sc=3-10#

We always like to poke a little fun at out leaders, why should anybody be upset?

[andyt]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

The neo-cons support lower taxes but then they also support massive government bailouts of the banks, massive new government agencies like Homeland Security, massive infringment of people's rights like The Patriot Act, and so on.

Then they're not really neo-cons, in my understanding of the word. I thought neo-conism was all about the free market being able to do everything better than govt.

As for infringement of people's rigths, I thought the Teabaggers would be on board with the Patriot act etc, as would you. Gotta go out and get those redsmuslims, the only good commie muslim is one that's dead and all.

[GreenTiger]

andyt andyt:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

The neo-cons support lower taxes but then they also support massive government bailouts of the banks, massive new government agencies like Homeland Security, massive infringment of people's rights like The Patriot Act, and so on.

Then they're not really neo-cons, in my understanding of the word. I thought neo-conism was all about the free market being able to do everything better than govt.

As for infringement of people's rigths, I thought the Teabaggers would be on board with the Patriot act etc, as would you. Gotta go out and get those redsmuslims, the only good commie muslim is one that's dead and all.

Thats about it. I hope we get over this lunacy before we actually elect these people.

[Zipperfish]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

The neo-cons support lower taxes but then they also support massive government bailouts of the banks, massive new government agencies like Homeland Security, massive infringment of people's rights like The Patriot Act, and so on.

The Tea Party people are actual conservatives with a lot of libertarians thrown in.

I'm not on board with the Tea Party myself as I'm waiting to see what happens with them. Will they coalesce into a viable political movement of their own? Will they become a third party? Will they take over the GOP? Will the GOP abandon neo-conservatism in order to re-embrace their base? I don't know.

One thing for sure, they are causing a resurgent interest in activism on both sides of the aisle.

What's next, I believe, is an equivalent to the Tea Party arising on the left to demand that the Democrats abandon their recent love of neo-conservatism.

If that were my impression of the Tea Party, I'd have a lot more sympathy for them. The disturbing aspect, from my point of view, is its religious connection. I see it more of Christian party than a libertarian party. Faith in the Christian god seems the most important ideal to them, from what I've seen.

And, in my experience, fundamentlaist religion and politics is a toxic mix.

[GreenTiger]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

That would put me in the United States of Canada, so I'd go for it.

[redhatmamma]

I wouldn't like to see religious nut jobs take over, but it really would be great to see the anti-establishment protesters get in. They won't get enough seats to make a difference anyway, but what the heck - bring on the teaparty.

BTW, the bit of masturbation was said when she was very young, even if she still feels that way she can't do anything about it - so don't worry you all - you're safe LOL