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Posts: 23565
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:11 pm
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: ASLplease ASLplease: btw, you guys dont actually think that other organizations dont cross borders to support each other? unions? doctors associations? governments? munipal program directors? colleges and universities?
in my opinion, the OP is a lame attempt to twist the obvious into something that will cause a knee jerk reaction from any canadian that is insecure about americans Boy, ppl really love throwing around the ol' prejudism card around these days. It's almost become a global sport. That's quite a leap to make that because someone doesn't want a particular American organization stirring shit up in Canada they are insecure about Americans "Hey John, what do you think about the NRA being in Canada?" "I think they should just stay in the US. They are an American lobby group, they don't need to be in Canada!" "You don't like Americans do you John." 
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:14 pm
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: Kinda like when Canada decrimmed weed and Bush had a shit hemmorhage demanding, not asking that the decision be reversed or Canada would face economic retaliation and the border would be closed? Kinda like that Bart? So Bush would rather DEMAND we change our laws(with accompanying threats) instead of asking Americans to stop smuggling weed from here. How many ppl have been murdered BY someone using a bag of weed to carry out the assault again? Canada has every right to legalize pot. And the US has every right to restrict the Canadian border the same as we've done to the Mexican border in order to interdict drug traffic. Canada is perfectly free to do what is needed to stop Mohawk gun smugglers. Which gets back to my point, no one is stopping Canada from interdicting Mohawk gun smugglers. Exporting guns without a permit is a crime in the USA and we have been extremely harsh to those we've caught trying to smuggle guns out of the US. Most can expect prison sentences of 20-50 years. There's not a lot we can do about the Mohawks once they are in Canada and there's not a lot your government is willing to do about them, either.
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:33 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: Kinda like when Canada decrimmed weed and Bush had a shit hemmorhage demanding, not asking that the decision be reversed or Canada would face economic retaliation and the border would be closed? Kinda like that Bart? So Bush would rather DEMAND we change our laws(with accompanying threats) instead of asking Americans to stop smuggling weed from here. How many ppl have been murdered BY someone using a bag of weed to carry out the assault again? Canada has every right to legalize pot. And the US has every right to restrict the Canadian border the same as we've done to the Mexican border in order to interdict drug traffic. Canada is perfectly free to do what is needed to stop Mohawk gun smugglers.  The only part of the border that could possibly be restricted are the offical crossing points, thusly having a huge impact on the Canadian economy. Good luck interdicting about 3500 miles or so of border that smugglers would still be free to use. Fuck, you can't even interdict the entire US/Mexico border Kinda hard to say we're free to legalize weed when the threat of economic devestation at the whim of the US is the result. That is indirect interference in Canadian policy at the least.
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:08 pm
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: BartSimpson BartSimpson: PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: Kinda like when Canada decrimmed weed and Bush had a shit hemmorhage demanding, not asking that the decision be reversed or Canada would face economic retaliation and the border would be closed? Kinda like that Bart? So Bush would rather DEMAND we change our laws(with accompanying threats) instead of asking Americans to stop smuggling weed from here. How many ppl have been murdered BY someone using a bag of weed to carry out the assault again? Canada has every right to legalize pot. And the US has every right to restrict the Canadian border the same as we've done to the Mexican border in order to interdict drug traffic. Canada is perfectly free to do what is needed to stop Mohawk gun smugglers.  The only part of the border that could possibly be restricted are the offical crossing points, thusly having a huge impact on the Canadian economy. Good luck interdicting about 3500 miles or so of border that smugglers would still be free to use. Fuck, you can't even interdict the entire US/Mexico border Kinda hard to say we're free to legalize weed when the threat of economic devestation at the whim of the US is the result. That is indirect interference in Canadian policy at the least. Shut the oil sands tap off then.
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:11 pm
Gunnair Gunnair: Shut the oil sands tap off then. Nothing I haven't suggested myself.
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:10 pm
I don't see the NRA having contacts inside Canada as being particularly dangerous. For one, there's nothing illegal about groups in different countires that have the same agenda from co-operating on legitimate lobbying efforts. And two, I think that the Canadian electorate is significantly different from the US that the same tactics used in America wouldn't work up here anyway. Anti-registry forces in Canada have done a fairly good job thus far of ensuring that their efforts have been distinctly Canadian rather than engaging in the more blatant sturm-und-drang methods that the NRA has found to be more successful in the US. We don't, and won't, ever have a 2nd Amendment that turns firearms ownership into a legal right. Concentrating on how heavy-handed anti-gun government tactics end up criminalizing a completely innocent segment of society and how the creation of the registry turned into such a ridiculous waste of taxpayer money turned out to be far more morally persuasive arguements anyway.
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:18 pm
I'm against the gun registry. You know the worst thing about being against the gun registry? Your allies. They tend to be one-trick ponies, not particularly astute who are great at foaming at the mouth on the gun registry, but run out of things to say on any other topic. Kinds of like your typical NRA supporter. Bunch of big-eared banjo-players if you ask me.
Last edited by Zipperfish on Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:32 pm
Dang it, I ain't fer it, I'm agin' it! 
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:36 pm
Thanos Thanos: Dang it, I ain't fer it, I'm agin' it!  You tell him, Abe!
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:37 pm
Zipperfish Zipperfish: I'm against the gun registry. You know the worst thing about being against the gun registry? Your allies. They tend to be one-trick ponies, not particularly astute who are great at foaming at the mouth on the gun registry, but run out of things to say on any other topic. Kinds of like your typical NRA supporter. Bunch of big-eared banjo-players if you ask me.  Yeah. These are definitely the ones you want on your side. 
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:49 pm
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:  The only part of the border that could possibly be restricted are the offical crossing points, thusly having a huge impact on the Canadian economy. Good luck interdicting about 3500 miles or so of border that smugglers would still be free to use. Fuck, you can't even interdict the entire US/Mexico border Kinda hard to say we're free to legalize weed when the threat of economic devestation at the whim of the US is the result. That is indirect interference in Canadian policy at the least. Well it did work for keeping rabbits out 
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:01 pm
Thanos Thanos: Dang it, I ain't fer it, I'm agin' it!  Thanos, don't know if you planned it that way, but it looks like your Bale avatar and Gramps are yelling at each other in your post! 
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:43 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Thanos Thanos: Dang it, I ain't fer it, I'm agin' it!  Thanos, don't know if you planned it that way, but it looks like your Bale avatar and Gramps are yelling at each other in your post!  hehe, nice catch.
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:22 pm
Heh. LOL. Gramps doesn't back down from anyone. 
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:27 pm
Nice 
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