[EyeBrock]

sandorski sandorski:

All Religion is stupid. That said, Religious people have the Right to be Religious. Forcing the "GZ Mosque" further away from GZ should not happen for the reason of not letting Hatred win the day. Plain and simple.

Face it, it's proximity is not the issue. The issue is Hatred of all things Islam, which is clearly seen in other parts of the US where opposition to Mosque Construction is also vehement.

Those opposing the "GZ Mosque" are Bigots. End of discussion.

Of course proximity is the issue.

It's because of mealy-mouthed PC types who's default mode is to scream 'racist' at anyone who disagrees with them, we are in this situation.
No wonder that idiot Beck has a following.

There are two sides to every argument. Screaming 'bigot' at those who disagree with you makes you no different than the racists who have hijacked this whole 'discussion'.

People should be able to disagree without being labelled a racist. Such is the brave new world we live in.

[GreenTiger]

Brenda Brenda:

$1:

Btw what exactly is their argument now for not letting the center being built

Emotions.

That's about right, There is some fear that we will let in some "evil genie". Many of
the folks that lost people on 9-11 see ISLAM as the enemy as we saw the Japanese
as the enemy after the Pearl Harbor attack. I lost people in 9-11as as well.

I realize that the individuals who did did this are terrorist bastards who need to be
hunted down and destroyed. The fact that the were Muslims is a minor point, they were
a bunch of murdering bastards. Hitler was a Roman Catholic so what? He was a murdering
bastard as well, him being a Roman Catholic is a minor point as well.

I know a lot of Muslims who are good decent people. If Rodney and James were alive I
don't think they would mind the mosque being built.

People here do have the right to protest. The have the right to protest against the Mosque. Every body who lost someone there handles it differently and I do understand
the emotion real well. 1 will say that people who oppose the Mosque should not be categorized as RACIST. Some may well be racist, but all of us are people still in pain from the ones we lost. I feel I can can see beyond the pain and have have a different sense of Islam.

[desertdude]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

People should be able to disagree without being labelled a racist. Such is the brave new world we live in.

Correct and agreed, just as every muslim has the right to not be labled as a terrorist/terrorist supporter/jihadi/radical/extremist/sharia law bringer.

And this is exactly what this whole issue does.

[kenmore]

I mean could they really expect otherwise. They are the pushiest group of people on the planet!

[Brenda]

kenmore kenmore:

I mean could they really expect otherwise. They are the pushiest group of people on the planet!

I so disagree

[desertdude]

kenmore kenmore:

I mean could they really expect otherwise. They are the pushiest group of people on the planet!

Yes, a life time of living in various muslim countries across the globe and hardened negotiations have led you to come to that conclusion.

[kenmore]

desertdude desertdude:

kenmore kenmore:

I mean could they really expect otherwise. They are the pushiest group of people on the planet!

Yes, a life time of living in various muslim countries across the globe and hardened negotiations have led you to come to that conclusion.

No! just living in Montréal where their demands are getting sickening!

[kenmore]

Brenda Brenda:

kenmore kenmore:

I mean could they really expect otherwise. They are the pushiest group of people on the planet!

I so disagree

So whats new? you disagree with most of my comments. You have alot of them in your parts of BC? Try living in Ottawa or Montéal. I have a niece and nephew in Paris.. Ask them their thoughts.

[desertdude]

Oh how sad for you

[Brenda]

kenmore kenmore:

desertdude desertdude:

kenmore kenmore:

I mean could they really expect otherwise. They are the pushiest group of people on the planet!

Yes, a life time of living in various muslim countries across the globe and hardened negotiations have led you to come to that conclusion.

No! just living in Montréal where their demands are getting sickening!

And that makes ALL Muslims all over the world "the pushiest group of people on the planet".

Sure, makes sense.

[Brenda]

kenmore kenmore:

Brenda Brenda:

kenmore kenmore:

I mean could they really expect otherwise. They are the pushiest group of people on the planet!

I so disagree

So whats new? you disagree with most of my comments. You have alot of them in your parts of BC? Try living in Ottawa or Montéal. I have a niece and nephew in Paris.. Ask them their thoughts.

Jesus Kenmore, I am f*cking Dutch! Any idea how many Muslims live there?? How many of my neighbours were Muslims??

With your logic, ALL Montrealers are racists.

[kenmore]

All I can say Brenda.. from the headline of this tread, I am not alone in my opinions. Check out Australia, Norway, Sweden, Britain, France .... are all those opposed to them wrong?

[Brenda]

Are you saying that I, and everyone who agrees with me is wrong?

Then again... The headline mentions "prejudice"... Meaning what again? "We don't know any, but from what we hear...."

[EyeBrock]

desertdude desertdude:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

People should be able to disagree without being labelled a racist. Such is the brave new world we live in.

Correct and agreed, just as every muslim has the right to not be labled as a terrorist/terrorist supporter/jihadi/radical/extremist/sharia law bringer.

And this is exactly what this whole issue does.

I agree DD.

[kenmore]

How long since you lived in the Netherlands Brenda? No Montréalers are not all racist or prejudice.. same as not all Muslims are terrorists. However my comment said " How could they expect otherwise?" and in my opinion from my encounters with them ( and I do know several) they are pushy. That has to do with immigration. They don't want to integrate and they want Sharia. They want special tx for "their" women. ie.. pools open on certain days just for them so no men are present. They want private rooms in hospitals because they don't want other women's husbands in the room. They want the law changed to suit them.
It might surprise some folks on here but I have some Muslims and Jews I consider friends and we have some interesting conversations trust me.