[PublicAnimalNo9]

Actually EB, I see the Christmas problem coming more from atheists than anywhere else. I can honestly say I have run across many immigrants that were of a different religion that still wished me a Merry Christmas during the holidays. Hindus, Sikhs, non Christian, non mulsim Arabic people. Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese. All of them have had people that wished me a Merry Christmas. Ironically, most of the time I hear "happy holidays", it comes from some white Canadian.

[EyeBrock]

True PA9. It's the white, granola crunching G20 protester types who ram this shit down our throats but I was in a 'blame islam for everything' mood. Logic has prevailed!

[PublicAnimalNo9]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

True PA9. It's the white, granola crunching G20 protester types who ram this shit down our throats but I was in a 'blame islam for everything' mood. Logic has prevailed!

Wow, I think that's the first time I've been "accused" of using good logic on this forum

[EyeBrock]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

True PA9. It's the white, granola crunching G20 protester types who ram this shit down our throats but I was in a 'blame islam for everything' mood. Logic has prevailed!

Wow, I think that's the first time I've been "accused" of using good logic on this forum

You have your moments mate!

[raydan]

Hi Boss...

I know I've been working for you for 5 years now, but I'm in this religion, you see, and from now on there are a few things that have to change.

From now on, I can't wear a suit and tie. We have a strict dress code and I'll be coming to work in a Batman costume.
I'll be taking a 3 hour lunch break, paid of course, because I have to pray. To help me concentrate on prayer, I'll be having a few drinks.
I'll be taking an 8 week vacation every year because we all assemble at our temple near Vegas in February and March.
I'll be packing at work because my religion says we must be armed at all times.
One last thing... between sunrise and sunset I'm not allowed to talk, so I'll have a bit of a problem with customer service.

Thank you for listening...

[Brenda]

Muslims who do Ramadan are pissed at TNT in The Netherlands, because the TNT does not allow them to pray during work hours and is not willing to have them NOT have breaks while they are supposed to.

Tough luck, peeps. Just do your darned job, or take Ramadan off. You get 5 weeks paid vacation a year anyway

[kenmore]

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:

tritium tritium:

The Burka is a symbol of female oppression..

A head dress or small (“scarf”) is a religious symbol..

Actually the reason why they are allowed to wear the head dress is because when the Brits where in India they wanted to make their Indian soldiers stand out from the British ones. So they made them wear the turban, the Indians didnt complain mind you, but it was to clearly identify the class of soldier. The Indian was NEVER allowed to wear a purely British uniform. So when I see a turban on a Canadian in a government uniform I see it as a reminder of British colonial imperialism and oppression.

Turban - Gift of the Guru

The turban of a Sikh is a gift given on Baisakhi Day of 1699 by the Tenth Master, Guru Gobind Singh. After giving Amrit to the Five Beloved Ones, he gave us bana, the distinctive dress that includes the turban. It is helpful to understand the historical context of his action.

During Guru Gobind Singh’s time, the turban, or “dastar,” as it is called in Persian, carried a totally different connotation from that of a hat in Europe. The turban represented respectability and was a sign of nobility. At that time, a Mughal aristocrat or a Hindu Rajput could be distinguished by his turban. The Hindu Rajputs were the only Hindus allowed to wear ornate turbans, carry weapons and have their mustache and beard. Also at this time, only the Rajputs could have Singh (“lion”) or Kaur (“princess”) as their second name. Even the Gurus did not have Singh as part of their name, until the Tenth Guru.

The downtrodden followers of the Sikh faith did not have the means to display aristocratic attire, nor were they allowed to, even if they had the means. (Doing so was usually equivalent to a death sentence.) It was in this context that Guru Gobind Singh decided to turn the tables on the ruling aristocracy by commanding every Sikh to carry a sword, take up the name Singh or Kaur, and have kesh (hair) and turban displayed boldly, without any fear. This effectively made his followers see themselves on a par with the Mughal rulers.

When we are in the presence of the Guru, Guru is giving us the gift of his energy. That energy is sacred and when we retain it, Guru's energy lives in us and that gives us the living experience of Guru. To help retain that energy we cover our heads with a turban.
Doesn't soundlike oppression to me

[Brenda]

Muslims don't see the Niqab nor the Hajib as oppression either.

They see covering themselves as a token of love to their god. Just like Jehova's see the "voluntary payments" for their magazines as a token of love to their god.

[kenmore]

wildrosegirl wildrosegirl:

Well honey, when Disney builds their "Suicide Bomber" attraction in Iraqiland, you can wear your head scarf to work.

Until then, you wear the same as every other Disney employee, or find a new job.

Love it wildrose...love it! I think she will discover Disney has the right to have dress codes and be able to tell employees what they expect...
And like we, and even Muslim's have said wearing head scarfs is not a religious issue..

[kenmore]

Brenda Brenda:

Muslims don't see the Niqab nor the Hajib as oppression either.

They see covering themselves as a token of love to their god. Just like Jehova's see the "voluntary payments" for their magazines as a token of love to their god.

Male Muslims don't and the females won't say it is... who wants to be beaten or offed ?

[Brenda]

kenmore kenmore:

Brenda Brenda:

Muslims don't see the Niqab nor the Hajib as oppression either.

They see covering themselves as a token of love to their god. Just like Jehova's see the "voluntary payments" for their magazines as a token of love to their god.

Male Muslims don't and the females won't say it is... who wants to be beaten or offed ?

Nice.
So we can trust Sikhs, but not Muslims? You make it sound like Muslim women are mindless sheep.

It's THEIR religion. Who are we to judge?

[raydan]

That's where I have a problem... the distinction between religion and costom... and when people suddenly decide to follow said religion and costom.

I know Sikhs who do not wear the turban or carry a kirpan, muslim women who do not wear the hijab, catholics who eat meat on Friday.

[Brenda]

raydan raydan:

That's where I have a problem... the distinction between religion and costom... and when people suddenly decide to follow said religion and costom.

I know Sikhs who do not wear the turban or carry a kirpan, muslim women who do not wear the hijab, catholics who eat meat on Friday.

Muslims who drink, Jews who put up a Christmas tree.

This bimbo, tho, should just shove it. The workplace is no place for religion, ANY religion, no exceptions, especially not after 2 years of not having a problem not wearing the headscarf.

[kenmore]

Good post Brenda. Religion should be kept out of the work place

[Benn]

kenmore kenmore:

Good post Brenda. Religion should be kept out of the work place

Unless of course you are a Priest or Rabbi