[uwish]

Lemmy Lemmy:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

So says Bob Rae.

Come on. There's no way you can defend the scrapping the longform census. The census is a vital historical document. The census is the history of our people. They're fascinating and provide a wealth of understanding of our history. I'm proud to have produced the first electronic database of the 1871 Census of Canada when I was an MA student.

Shame on the Torries for even considering such a short-sighted move.

no one is scrapping the long form. It is being made a voluntary fill out.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

In other words, nothing has really changed.

[Benn]

uwish uwish:

Lemmy Lemmy:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

So says Bob Rae.

Come on. There's no way you can defend the scrapping the longform census. The census is a vital historical document. The census is the history of our people. They're fascinating and provide a wealth of understanding of our history. I'm proud to have produced the first electronic database of the 1871 Census of Canada when I was an MA student.

Shame on the Torries for even considering such a short-sighted move.

no is scrapping the long form. It is being made a voluntary fill out.

Scrap is useless stuff. Voluntary long form survey is useless stuff therefore scrap. I think all the arguments as to why its useless have been made here so I'll forgo them.

[uwish]

I don't think it is useless, but I don't think fear of imprisonment is 'reasonable' either. Hence, they are making it voluntary, only people that can't read and don't want to listen think it is being 'scraped' it isn't.

[hurley_108]

uwish uwish:

I don't think it is useless, but I don't think fear of imprisonment is 'reasonable' either. Hence, they are making it voluntary, only people that can't read and don't want to listen think it is being 'scraped' it isn't.

When you make any survey "voluntary," you're going to introduce a selection bias by giving the surveyed the choice of whether or not to participate. This is actually where Pluggy's point comes into play. Unless you have an extremely high completion rate, you're not going to be able to be sure that your sample is truly random. If you can't be sure your sample is random, you can't be sure of the results. If you can't be sure of the results, what's the point?

Even if it's not being officially scrapped, it's being effectively scrapped.

[uwish]

that can be said for any survey from any institution. We don't just use stats Can long surveys. Sending the long form to more people will help reduce any bias. I still think that is a better option than jail. That just isn't reasonable.