[EyeBrock]

No, they are pretending. It's my opinion so get yer own.

[Thanos]

It's been nearly two years since she hit the big leagues and there still hasn't been any major media investigation into the endless series of pathological lies Sarah Palin keeps telling. Nor any expose of the Mafia-family manner in which she ran the governor's office in Alaska. Nor of her husbands close personal connections to an Alaskan seccessionist movement. Nor (as opposed to the endless attempts by FOX and the rightwing blogosphere to link Obama directly to Rev. Wright's supposed 'radicalism') any critical examination of the Palin family's regular attendance at a fundamentalist church so batshit and whackjob insane that it makes snakehandlers look responsible in comparison. Nor, and worst of all, was any examination ever made at all of how someone so colossally inept and unprepared for major office was even selected by Jonh McCain for the Vice-Presidential post in the first place.

In fact, the parts of the mainstream media that weren't kissing Palin's ass like FOX did (and still does) seemed to go out of their way to give her a pass on just about everything, apparently based on nothing more than a 'we can't be mean to a girl' lack of journalistic integrity. If they'd done their job on Palin, the way they should have, then the McCain campaign rightfully would have lost by an even larger margin than they eventually did. So much for the 'lefty media' caterwauling nonsense from rightwingers who endlessly whine about what unfortunate victims they allegedly are. If they were as left as the whiners keep saying they are, then the lamestream media wouldn't have acted so cowardly as they did with the Palin issue, nor with any of the other Bush era disasters they so half-assedly covered.

This is why lunatics and hatemongerers like Breitbart are flourishing right now. The media has almost totally abandoned it's traditional duty and these blatantly evil motherfuckers are flooding in to fill the vacuum. If it weren't for the internet keeping an eye on them these bastards would have as easy a free ride as Josef Goebbels once did.

[PluggyRug]

sandorski sandorski:

Negative. It's not "pretend", it's Attempt.

No positive, pretend is the correct word, no attempt is made to be objective when sensationalism is the norm.

[QBC]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

The issue here is that we've got reporters who run around with a cloak of 'objectivity' being anything but objective. FOX News is, bluntly, providing a measure of intellectual balance by being biased in another direction and, at least, they are pretty honest about it.

In the sum of the discussion here it should be assumed that journalistic objectivity is a thing of the past, that is, if it ever existed at all.

I totally agree. Fox presents with an 'in your face' kinda bias/alternate viewpoint. We all know they lean right.

It doesn't pretend objectivity like CBC and CTV.
Really, I'm very surprised and disappointed with the reporting I've seen lately.

Just piss poor, biased, agenda ridden partisan viewpoints, masquerading as the news.

I think comparing CBC and CTV to FOX is like comparing apples to...Ohhhh.....used rubber tires. The media in Canada is a fair bit different than the media in the US. I find most of the US media to be tabloid as opposed to ours. Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with any media pretending to be unbiased when they clearly are not, but for the most part, the US "news" is not news at all. Sensationalism seems to be the only constant south of the border, what ratings the story will get versus the accuracy, the ratings game seems to win out more often than not. The reporting of the news in Canada can be biased either way depending on the station, but they all do tend to try and get the facts kinda straight.

[Zipperfish]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I totally agree. Fox presents with an 'in your face' kinda bias/alternate viewpoint. We all know they lean right.

It doesn't pretend objectivity like CBC and CTV.
Really, I'm very surprised and disappointed with the reporting I've seen lately.

Just piss poor, biased, agenda ridden partisan viewpoints, masquerading as the news.

Then why do they call themselves "Fair and Balanced." You watch FOX because you just want someone to make you feel better by reinforcing your predetermined viewpoints. It's for people who don't want to think, they want to be told what to think.

[2Cdo]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Then why do they call themselves "Fair and Balanced." You watch FOX because you just want someone to make you feel better by reinforcing your predetermined viewpoints. It's for people who don't want to think, they want to be told what to think.

And the exact same thing could be said about the CBC.

[BartSimpson]

QBC QBC:

The media in Canada is a fair bit different than the media in the US.

That's true.

In the USA we have a few conservative newspapers, a couple highly successful conservative radio networks, one bankrupt liberal-left radio network, one conservative cable news network, and several score liberal to leftist broadcast and cable networks.

In Canada you've got the liberal media, the leftist media, the socialist media, and the openly subversive communist and anarchist media.

We've got FOX and I guess that makes all the difference in the world.

[BartSimpson]

Thanos Thanos:

It's been nearly two years since she hit the big leagues and there still hasn't been any major media investigation into the endless series of pathological lies Sarah Palin keeps telling.

Nothing is stopping you from doing this on your own.

Thanos Thanos:

Nor any expose of the Mafia-family manner in which she ran the governor's office in Alaska.

That's because all of the ethics charges against her have now been dismissed for lack of evidence.

Thanos Thanos:

Nor of her husbands close personal connections to an Alaskan seccessionist movement.

Yet you know of it so what's your complaint again?

Thanos Thanos:

Nor (as opposed to the endless attempts by FOX and the rightwing blogosphere to link Obama directly to Rev. Wright's supposed 'radicalism')

Because sitting in the front pew for 20 years while Wright spewed racist drivel doesn't mean Obama's 'connected' to the godfather of his children in any kind of close, personal way.

Thanos Thanos:

any critical examination of the Palin family's regular attendance at a fundamentalist church so batshit and whackjob insane that it makes snakehandlers look responsible in comparison. Nor, and worst of all, was any examination ever made at all of how someone so colossally inept and unprepared for major office was even selected by Jonh McCain for the Vice-Presidential post in the first place.

Ask McCain. As I recall, prior to McCain's nomination for President, you liked him.

Thanos Thanos:

In fact, the parts of the mainstream media that weren't kissing Palin's ass like FOX did (and still does) seemed to go out of their way to give her a pass on just about everything, apparently based on nothing more than a 'we can't be mean to a girl' lack of journalistic integrity.

You were off-planet in 2008, I see.

Thanos Thanos:

If they'd done their job on Palin, the way they should have, then the McCain campaign rightfully would have lost by an even larger margin than they eventually did. So much for the 'lefty media' caterwauling nonsense from rightwingers who endlessly whine about what unfortunate victims they allegedly are. If they were as left as the whiners keep saying they are, then the lamestream media wouldn't have acted so cowardly as they did with the Palin issue, nor with any of the other Bush era disasters they so half-assedly covered.

This is why lunatics and hatemongerers like Breitbart are flourishing right now. The media has almost totally abandoned it's traditional duty and these blatantly evil motherfuckers are flooding in to fill the vacuum. If it weren't for the internet keeping an eye on them these bastards would have as easy a free ride as Josef Goebbels once did.

You realize that there's some guy over on Free Dominion saying just about the same thing from a right-wing perspective right now, right?

[Zipperfish]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Then why do they call themselves "Fair and Balanced." You watch FOX because you just want someone to make you feel better by reinforcing your predetermined viewpoints. It's for people who don't want to think, they want to be told what to think.

And the exact same thing could be said about the CBC.

The issue being discussed was: If FOX readily admits its bias then whjy does it call itself "Fair and Balanced." I don't think CBC had anything to do with it. Do try to keep up.

[BartSimpson]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

The issue being discussed was: If FOX readily admits its bias then whjy does it call itself "Fair and Balanced." I don't think CBC had anything to do with it. Do try to keep up.

They admit that they're biased. That's Fair.

They get half the television audience for news and the liberal networks get the other half and that's Balanced.

Fair & Balanced. There you go.

[Zipperfish]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

The issue being discussed was: If FOX readily admits its bias then whjy does it call itself "Fair and Balanced." I don't think CBC had anything to do with it. Do try to keep up.

They admit that they're biased. That's Fair.

They get half the television audience for news and the liberal networks get the other half and that's Balanced.

Fair & Balanced. There you go.

They don't admit that they are biased. There slogan is "Fair and Balanced." That hardly admits a bias.

Interview transcript: Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes

Murdoch Murdoch:

We’re not promoting the conservative point of view

Ailes Ailes:

We decided to balance all the arguments and treat the conservative view with the same respect as we have for the liberal view, and that is really irritating some people

Nothing about admitting a conservatvie bias there. And that is what we call:

[ManifestDestiny]

How is this al about FOX now, This thread is about a bunch of liberal eggheads trying to cover stories up.

Yet some people want to yell and scream about FOX. I mean jees is it that bad. how brainwashed are you guys.

I put up a article talking about 400 liberal journalists trying to hide the truth. Make up a stories about how Karl Rove is racist!!!!! and your talking about fox!!!!

Whats great is you then regurgitate the bullshit these liars print and report on!!

[xerxes]

Maybe we didn't care for you original article and decided to have a discussion for ourselves. Maybe we don't give a toss for articles written by a real-to-life Ned Flanders with less morals.

[ManifestDestiny]

xerxes xerxes:

Maybe we didn't care for you original article and decided to have a discussion for ourselves. Maybe we don't give a toss for articles written by a real-to-life Ned Flanders with less morals.

Troll

[EyeBrock]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I totally agree. Fox presents with an 'in your face' kinda bias/alternate viewpoint. We all know they lean right.

It doesn't pretend objectivity like CBC and CTV.
Really, I'm very surprised and disappointed with the reporting I've seen lately.

Just piss poor, biased, agenda ridden partisan viewpoints, masquerading as the news.

Then why do they call themselves "Fair and Balanced." You watch FOX because you just want someone to make you feel better by reinforcing your predetermined viewpoints. It's for people who don't want to think, they want to be told what to think.

I don't watch Fox. Too American centric.

I get my world news from the CBC and I like the local CTV news. I watch the National now and then.