[ShepherdsDog]

The only ethnic group he's claimed to dislike are Germans. I think they qualify as white.

[GreenTiger]

Well I would test to see if the Charter of Rights Actually means what it says or is a BS document and I would make it loud and clear for the world to see. This is one og those things worth fighting to the Nth degree.

[CommanderSock]

I believe in Affirmative Action, but not this way. Too many petty people take it as an excuse for their own failure.

AA needs to be grassroots. Make sure children of all religions, ethnicities, and races are given the equal opportunity from the get go in terms of education.

Scrap the local school boards and spread the money equally. Rich neighborhoods and poor neighborhoods or city schools should receive equal funding. Even reservation schools should receive the same funding as schools in downtown Toronto.

That would be a start. This will give all groups an equal chance from early age. They will also be mentally prepared for higher learning.

[Benn]

[quote="GreenTiger"]Well I would test to see if the Charter of Rights Actually means what it says or is a BS document and I would make it loud and clear for the world to see. This is one og those things worth fighting to the Nth degree.[/quote

The clause has been challenged in the past, I think more than once and in the end these kinds of hiring practices have been found to be in line with the "intent of parliament" or so thinks the SCC at least. Maybe they asked Trudeau what he meant :p

This woman's out of luck and I'm shocked a lawyer took the losing case

[Brenda]

Let me get this straight... (I just read the article, yeah, sue me )
She applied for a job, but could not submit her resume because she didn't click the "native" or "visible minority" box?

That doesn't mean she is denied a job, that means she is denied submitting her resume.

I got rejected because of my "accent" for a job once. I also lots of times never heard back from employers and even headhunters, after going through the whole process of interviewing and even drugtesting.

IMO, this is just another form of assholery, that I have walked into a couple of times. When people take the effort to make time for you, the least you can do (as an employer or headhunter) is send a "thanks for your time and effort, but we hired someone else"-email. Especially when you harassed me for weeks, had multiple testing and interviews done that cost me money.

[herbie]

Now that you've all got nicely riled, I will add that
a) the story is hearsay, what the ex stated and not experienced personally by me or backed up by actual evidence
b) what I do know is that bilingualism is a printed requirement on the application, she was a drunk, had a horrible attendance record at all previous jobs, and only had any experience due to a 'hire the un-hireable' program that waived ANY qualifications whatsoever to get people off welfare and EI and into a job.
Which means racism may OR may not be the actual reason she didn't get it. We'll never 'know' for sure.
Just like if you show up 6 mos preggers for an interview, you'll never know for sure that's why you didn't get the job. Most employers aren't stupid, they know how to play the game.

[kenmore]

When I read the heading I thought " hmmm bet she is white" yep.. She is correct some government jobs state that whites be screened out.. totally bullshit and I agree with her. She should file with the Human Rights.

[andyt]

She should have claimed being part native. You see lots of blond, blue eyed natives manning the barricades. I doubt if they would make her supply documentation to prove it, since there are so many non-status natives around. Then if she got the job, and they tried to fire her for not being native, she would have a pretty good dismissal without cause complaint.

[raydan]

Went to the unemployment bureau today.

Exactly WHY do they ask you if you're a "native" or a visible minority?

[Brenda]

Or being EI eligible? Methinks... Funding.

[Zipperfish]

Brenda Brenda:

Let me get this straight... (I just read the article, yeah, sue me )
She applied for a job, but could not submit her resume because she didn't click the "native" or "visible minority" box?

That doesn't mean she is denied a job, that means she is denied submitting her resume.

I got rejected because of my "accent" for a job once. I also lots of times never heard back from employers and even headhunters, after going through the whole process of interviewing and even drugtesting.

IMO, this is just another form of assholery, that I have walked into a couple of times. When people take the effort to make time for you, the least you can do (as an employer or headhunter) is send a "thanks for your time and effort, but we hired someone else"-email. Especially when you harassed me for weeks, had multiple testing and interviews done that cost me money.

Here's a good one. I got a reference check form for an old staff member who had moved on and was looking at a new company. Eleven pages of detailed questions. Instructions: Must be filled out and submitted today, otherwise the applicant will no longer be considered for the job.

As for drugtesting, I was asked once. I said "No need to test me. I'll tell you right now that I won't show up to work under the influence of any drug, ever." They told me that my word wasn't good enough, unfortunately. I said "Then I don't want to work for you." Loved the stunned look on the guy's face as I walked out!

[BartSimpson]

raydan raydan:

Went to the unemployment bureau today.

Exactly WHY do they ask you if you're a "native" or a visible minority?

Because you get more money if you are.

[kenmore]

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/1007 ... ity_hiring


Tories to review affirmative action hiring ..... they keep it up and I might have to vote for them.

[GreenTiger]

kenmore kenmore:

When I read the heading I thought " hmmm bet she is white" yep.. She is correct some government jobs state that whites be screened out.. totally bullshit and I agree with her. She should file with the Human Rights.

I would fight this tooth and nail. The lawyer's ending remark should be does the Charter of Rights mean what it suggests it means or is a cheap knockoff of the the US Bill of Rights without it protections. There are or should be equal in the law.

[BartSimpson]

GreenTiger GreenTiger:

I would fight this tooth and nail. The lawyer's ending remark should be does the Charter of Rights mean what it suggests it means or is a cheap knockoff of the the US Bill of Rights without it protections. There are or should be equal in the law.

'Not withstanding' clause. This kind of thing is perfectly acceptable under the Charter.