[Freakinoldguy]

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:

ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:

This should all remiond us once again that Islam is the relgion of "peace"

And is apparently full of volunteers who are or support LGBT people and advocate for their rights.

http://www.dutchamsterdam.nl/891-muslim ... -amsterdam

AM that's a nice story but it the reality is that these people wouldn't be left alive long enough to rent anything but a coffin in a Muslim Country.

So really what does it have to do with this Woman being stoned by the faithful for being raped?

[saturn_656]

jeff744 jeff744:

saturn_656 saturn_656:

jeff744 jeff744:

The USA is an excellent case study in what happens when a nation believes they own the world and that anything that does not follow their views or help them must be destroyed. Iran was far better off before the US meddled than after.

If you read on Iranian history, the American intervention was actually at the behest of the United Kingdom.

Both of which are equally guilty and for America Iran is simply another nation they forced a mass murderer upon.

Mohammad Reza Pahlavi was the reigning monarch of the time, he took his position in 1941 after his Nazi friendly father was removed during WWII.

He was hardly forced upon Iran.

[Arctic_Menace]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:

ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:

This should all remiond us once again that Islam is the relgion of "peace"

And is apparently full of volunteers who are or support LGBT people and advocate for their rights.

http://www.dutchamsterdam.nl/891-muslim ... -amsterdam

AM that's a nice story but it the reality is that these people wouldn't be left alive long enough to rent anything but a coffin in a Muslim Country.

So really what does it have to do with this Woman being stoned by the faithful for being raped?

It's not just a nice story, but shows that not all Muslims are evil and want to kill us and make our women wear hijabs. The whole point I'm trying to make here is that these gross and offensive generalizations do nothing to help these people feel at home in their new country. Sure, there are always bad apples in a group but when people like Manifest Destiny say stupid shit like that, it does nothing constructive or even remotely helpful or useful.

Yes, most Muslim countries are terribly backwards, but there are growing movements to change that which you would know about if you read past the usual stories. I found Muslim rebel metal and punk music and these bands are based in places like Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, etc. Furthermore, there's the fact that there have been bloody clashes in Iran against what is seen by many young Iranians as the tyranny of the current regime. Be they in the western world or the Middle East, not all Muslims are completely insane and want to kill us all. It's a very dangerous course of action to view them in their entirety with a hostile eye.

As for what this has to do with the woman being stoned, it has nothing to do with it, neither do comments like "Muslims are bad and evil and want to kill us". It's of the same value (in other words, of no value at all).

[ShepherdsDog]

what some are failing to see here is that this isn't some random act committed by some small militant group in the primitive backwoods. This sentence was handed down by the courts of Iran, supposedly more humane than the Shah's regime(according to some). BS is the call. For all the wrongsdone under the Shah, Iran was a far more egalitarian society, where adultry was a matter for divorce courts, not public stoning and lashings.

[martin14]

desertdude desertdude:

No Saudia is also included in the POS list. You guys just cant get over hate can you ? Sad really.

You go out looking for reasons to hate and differentiate and then blame.

So what's not on the POS list ?

Afghanistan ?
Pakistan ?

ya, really well organized and peaceful places.


Syria ?
Tunisia ?


Nice military dictatorships.


Oh, I know.. Somalia




For every one country you might be able to mention, I'll put 5 at least
that are complete shitholes, with fucked up governments, extreme poverty,
and morality police for all.


I dare you.

[ManifestDestiny]

I would love to know also what Muslim country is not on this POS list?

And just to clear the air, I dont beleive all Muslim's want to kill us, just the majority of them.

And I agree we have bad apples in every race or country. But that is usually in the minority not the majority.

[kenmore]

ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:

I would love to know also what Muslim country is not on this POS list?

And just to clear the air, I dont beleive all Muslim's want to kill us, just the majority of them.

And I agree we have bad apples in every race or country. But that is usually in the minority not the majority.

I agree with you.. perhaps not all want to kill us, but the percentage is pretty high. They have an agenda. For most they hate the west and esp. the US. What they are doing now is the Trojan Horse invasion. They are infiltrating and slowly changing the face of both the US and Canada. There are many here illegally and they are silently going about the business of planning the take over of North America..

[andyt]

kenmore kenmore:

They have an agenda. For most they hate the west and esp. the US. What they are doing now is the Trojan Horse invasion. They are infiltrating and slowly changing the face of both the US and Canada. There are many here illegally and they are silently going about the business of planning the take over of North America..

[GreenTiger]

Moslems and any other group for that matter has to realize that in North America we have secular societies. One can be religious as they like, but when they insist that our laws should be subordinated to their beliefs that where we are going to be up in their face.

In London, England there are three Shaia courts set up where Sharia law supersedes English laws.

That nonsense must not be allowed to drift over to this side of the Atlantic. Immigration is fine that has what has built our countries and we have done well by it, but a new group coming over and insisting we follow the laws of the country of origin?
No.

[Zipperfish]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

The issues with Iran go back farther than 1953.

Iran is a excellent case study in what happens when you refuse to play ball.

Play ball with whom?

Of course it goes back prior to 1953. To quote Clive Barker:

$1:

Nothing ever begins.

There is no first moment; no single word or place from which this or any other story springs.

The threads can always be traced back to some earlier tale, and to the tales that preceded that; though as the narrator's voice recedes the connections seem to grow more tenuous, for each age will want the tale told as if it were of its own making.

Thus the pagan will be sanctified, the tragic become laughable; great lovers will stoop to sentiment and demons dwindle to clockwork toys.

Clive Barker, Weaveworld

$1:

The US didn't have to do anything to vilify Saddam. The man was a monster.

Ahhh--you've nailed the propaganda point quite nicely for me. See how you've completely internalized that he was non-humna. That is an important goal of propaganda. You were shown, time adn time again, various atrocities allegedly perpetrated by him. Some were true, some exaggertaed and some just out-and-out fabrications

Saddam was human. And quite sane. I don't mean to shock you by saying this. The atrocities committed by him could have been dozens of toher brutal strongmen in dozens of other countries. But for the propaganda to work, it's important that this not be brought up. The sheeple need to believe that this person is the personification of evil on the planet; a "monster."

Next time, take the red pill.

[Arctic_Menace]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

saturn_656 saturn_656:

The issues with Iran go back farther than 1953.

Iran is a excellent case study in what happens when you refuse to play ball.

Play ball with whom?

Of course it goes back prior to 1953. To quote Clive Barker:

$1:

Nothing ever begins.

There is no first moment; no single word or place from which this or any other story springs.

The threads can always be traced back to some earlier tale, and to the tales that preceded that; though as the narrator's voice recedes the connections seem to grow more tenuous, for each age will want the tale told as if it were of its own making.

Thus the pagan will be sanctified, the tragic become laughable; great lovers will stoop to sentiment and demons dwindle to clockwork toys.

Clive Barker, Weaveworld

$1:

The US didn't have to do anything to vilify Saddam. The man was a monster.

Ahhh--you've nailed the propaganda point quite nicely for me. See how you've completely internalized that he was non-humna. That is an important goal of propaganda. You were shown, time adn time again, various atrocities allegedly perpetrated by him. Some were true, some exaggertaed and some just out-and-out fabrications

Saddam was human. And quite sane. I don't mean to shock you by saying this. The atrocities committed by him could have been dozens of toher brutal strongmen in dozens of other countries. But for the propaganda to work, it's important that this not be brought up. The sheeple need to believe that this person is the personification of evil on the planet; a "monster."

Next time, take the red pill.

[BartSimpson]

Adolf Hitler was sane, too. And human.

Most people prefr to think of such men as insane and inhuman as a means of denying that they, too, might possibly be capable of the same excesses.

[Arctic_Menace]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Adolf Hitler was sane, too. And human.

Most people prefr to think of such men as insane and inhuman as a means of denying that they, too, might possibly be capable of the same excesses.

True, but at least some of us are capable of knowing the true depths of human depravity.