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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:18 pm
Zipperfish Zipperfish: CharlieHammer CharlieHammer: So why are you using the declaration of someone supposedly being a member of a white supremacist group as the foundation for your argument about religion?
I don't think I said anywhere that Muslims can't be white, though. Just don't see that. That simply doesn't follow at all. Admittedly I'm not as familiar with Stormfront as you appear to be, but I always thought they were big on the Christian heritage thing too. My bad. Stormfront is a so-called "Christian Identity" group that idolizes Adolf Hitler and it also promotes worship of the Norse panoply of gods (Odin and etc.) and it uses Norse runes in its various imagery. They're perhaps a little more tolerant than Fred Phelps as Stormfront is notorious for a number of angst-ridden homosexuals amongst their membership but Christian? Yah, not really. That said, I'm not at all pleased when someone associates me with such a detestable group.
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:18 pm
Zipperfish Zipperfish: I don't recall saying that the invasion was for "Christian reasons." Where, excctly, did I say that?
You folks seem intent on putting words in my mouth, perhaps because it's easier than actually dealing with the words I actually said. Well usually Christian countries would work towards the betterment of Christendom. They wouldn't work for the betterment of Hinduism or Islam or Taoism or whatnot. So, either the Christian backgrounds of both nations somehow matter over the Iraq War, or they're secular countries which waged war for secular reasons.
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:19 pm
bootlegga bootlegga: Well, based on some of the laws in Islamic countries, if we have Islamophobia, then they all seem to have Christianophobia!  Thank you. ![Drink up [B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif)
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HyperionTheEvil
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:21 pm
CharlieHammer CharlieHammer: [
Well, I'd expect this response from you seeing as though you also link skin color issues (i.e. white supremacist Stormfront groups) with religion issues (i.e. Islam/Christianity). That's you're twisted thinking Im still waiting for you direct quotation of mine to be posted by you where i said what in your fevered imagination you think i said
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:21 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Stormfront is a so-called "Christian Identity" group that idolizes Adolf Hitler and it also promotes worship of the Norse panoply of gods (Odin and etc.) and it uses Norse runes in its various imagery. They're perhaps a little more tolerant than Fred Phelps as Stormfront is notorious for a number of angst-ridden homosexuals amongst their membership but Christian? Yah, not really.
That said, I'm not at all pleased when someone associates me with such a detestable group.
Sorta like when you characterize all Muslims as wanting to exterminate all Jews and that any Muslim who doesn't advocate violent jihad isn't actually a Muslim. Oh really really nice you are perfectly willing to accept homosexuals are among them but not Christians. 
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CommanderSock
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:22 pm
There's some serious concerns when people who wish death upon infidels are using the organs of democracy to achieve their purpose.
That being said, the middle east/islamic world is stuck in the 6th century.
These fools make Stormfront look tame. If some of this Aryan brotherhood, nazi, white supremacist, white seperatist types spoke to a Pashtun about their racial fantasies, they'd be made to feel giddy.
No, the phobia is real. And the threat is real too. Ask Byzantium. Ask the Copts in Egypt. Ask Ethiopia. Ask Kenya. An endless list.
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HyperionTheEvil
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:23 pm
Zipperfish Zipperfish: CharlieHammer CharlieHammer: So why are you using the declaration of someone supposedly being a member of a white supremacist group as the foundation for your argument about religion?
I don't think I said anywhere that Muslims can't be white, though. Just don't see that. That simply doesn't follow at all. Admittedly I'm not as familiar with Stormfront as you appear to be, but I always thought they were big on the Christian heritage thing too. My bad. You didnt. Dont worry about it, our new poster like to pull crap out of thin air.
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CharlieHammer
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:25 pm
HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil: CharlieHammer CharlieHammer: [
Well, I'd expect this response from you seeing as though you also link skin color issues (i.e. white supremacist Stormfront groups) with religion issues (i.e. Islam/Christianity). That's you're twisted thinking Im still waiting for you direct quotation of mine to be posted by you where i said what in your fevered imagination you think i said Well, to tell you the truth, I can only read your posts once without nearly having a seizure. So I dare not go back on such a clearly ill-fated quest to find something you wrote that you apparently did not even understand.
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CharlieHammer
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Posts: 83
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:27 pm
CommanderSock CommanderSock: There's some serious concerns when people who wish death upon infidels are using the organs of democracy to achieve their purpose.
That being said, the middle east/islamic world is stuck in the 6th century.
These fools make Stormfront look tame. If some of this Aryan brotherhood, nazi, white supremacist, white seperatist types spoke to a Pashtun about their racial fantasies, they'd be made to feel giddy.
No, the phobia is real. And the threat is real too. Ask Byzantium. Ask the Copts in Egypt. Ask Ethiopia. Ask Kenya. An endless list. And soon Earth will be added to that list, unfortunately.
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HyperionTheEvil
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:28 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Zipperfish Zipperfish: CharlieHammer CharlieHammer: So why are you using the declaration of someone supposedly being a member of a white supremacist group as the foundation for your argument about religion?
I don't think I said anywhere that Muslims can't be white, though. Just don't see that. That simply doesn't follow at all. Admittedly I'm not as familiar with Stormfront as you appear to be, but I always thought they were big on the Christian heritage thing too. My bad. Stormfront is a so-called "Christian Identity" group that idolizes Adolf Hitler and it also promotes worship of the Norse panoply of gods (Odin and etc.) and it uses Norse runes in its various imagery. They're perhaps a little more tolerant than Fred Phelps as Stormfront is notorious for a number of angst-ridden homosexuals amongst their membership but Christian? Yah, not really. That said, I'm not at all pleased when someone associates me with such a detestable group. The problem is that anyone can define religion with whatever crap they can come up with. The Mormons think their prophets live on the planet Kolob, Scientolgists think Tom Cruise is a Theologian of some type. Christianity isn't lacking in the "What crazy shit can we think up now" crowd Stormfront for all their disgusting behavior has shown that racism and religion can coincide happily, but im sure you knew that.
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:29 pm
CharlieHammer CharlieHammer: CommanderSock CommanderSock: There's some serious concerns when people who wish death upon infidels are using the organs of democracy to achieve their purpose.
That being said, the middle east/islamic world is stuck in the 6th century.
These fools make Stormfront look tame. If some of this Aryan brotherhood, nazi, white supremacist, white seperatist types spoke to a Pashtun about their racial fantasies, they'd be made to feel giddy.
No, the phobia is real. And the threat is real too. Ask Byzantium. Ask the Copts in Egypt. Ask Ethiopia. Ask Kenya. An endless list. And soon Earth will be added to that list, unfortunately. No doubt after that the Klingon empire will be targeted. Hmmmmm, you remind me so much of a former user. You seem to have mastered the site functions very easily, almost as if you used to post here...... 
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CharlieHammer
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:31 pm
HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil: The problem is that anyone can define religion with whatever crap they can come up with. The Mormons think their prophets live on the planet Kolob, Scientolgists think Tom Cruise is a Theologian of some type. Christianity isn't lacking in the "What crazy shit can we think up now" crowd
Stormfront for all their disgusting behavior has shown that racism and religion can coincide happily, but im sure you knew that. I couldn't help but notice that you didn't include Islam in this list where you say religions can use whatever crap they want to define themselves. Perhaps there was an unwillingness? Or a fear of repercussions? Islam's job here is done, unfortunately.
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:33 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: bootlegga bootlegga: Well, based on some of the laws in Islamic countries, if we have Islamophobia, then they all seem to have Christianophobia!  Thank you. ![Drink up [B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif) Don't forget homophobia, isn't that a death sentence in some of this countries ?
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CharlieHammer
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:34 pm
DerbyX DerbyX: No doubt after that the Klingon empire will be targeted. Hmmmmm, you remind me so much of a former user. You seem to have mastered the site functions very easily, almost as if you used to post here......  Even Star Trek will not be safe as Islam does not believe in space travel. Christianity fortunately broke through that barrier ages ago. But Islam is enlightened, right?
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:35 pm
CharlieHammer CharlieHammer: DerbyX DerbyX: No doubt after that the Klingon empire will be targeted. Hmmmmm, you remind me so much of a former user. You seem to have mastered the site functions very easily, almost as if you used to post here......  Even Star Trek will not be safe as Islam does not believe in space travel. Christianity fortunately broke through that barrier ages ago. But Islam is enlightened, right? Enlightened? Nope. Just not the people you claim they are.
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