[EyeBrock]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

nyah..nyah Takes one to know one, you jack booted coffee swilling gestapo.

Your papers are not in order and pass me another chiken-tikka nan......

[djakeydd]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

djakeydd djakeydd:

Wada Wada:

Onward Christian soldiers...The Roman Catholic Church and it's succession of criminal, power tripping Popes has shown far more propensity for violence and general nastiness than any Muslum(s) I've read about. One big difference is that some terrorists use their supposed religion as a reason for their evil doings while the other side uses the power of their church to do their evil. I know who I would judge as being the most evil.

How about stop characterizing, Catholics are not Christians and are by no means representative.

Actually Roman Catholicism is the largest of all 'Christian' denominations and forms the majority, not just a plurality, of Christians. You can argue all you want about doctrinal differences and scriptual interpretation, but dem's de facts.

Sure, rc's call themselves the largest "Christian demonination. Bin laden calls himself a nice guy - big deal, they are not christian and it goes way beyond a few doctrinal differences. Mormons, sdas, jw's call themselves christian, they all deny the diety of Jesus Christ and the rcs have practiced blatant heresy for the better part of 2000 years. Rc's are also specifically refered to in Revelation as the great whore church - the church (vatican rome) built on 7 hills- drunk on the blood of the saints (those actual Christians who they murdered during the crusade, and im not talking muslims murdered as is historically populuar).

[DerbyX]

Just out of morbid curiosity sunshine what sect do you belong to?

[ShepherdsDog]

Last time I read the bible. Jesus denied he was God too, but then again he was a Jew, not a Christian.

[N_Fiddledog]

This cartoonist is kind of feisty for a Swede. A throwback to his Viking ancestors maybe. His house is booby-trapped, and he sleeps with an axe by his bed.

There's some better details on the incident in the aftermath.

$1:

STOCKHOLM - A Swedish artist whose drawing of the Prophet Muhammad offended Muslims said Wednesday he hopes to get another chance to deliver a lecture on free speech that was interrupted by violent protests.

But officials at Uppsala University said they doubted they would invite Lars Vilks again after police used pepper spray and batons to help him escape a furious crowd Tuesday.

"It's nothing that we're discussing right now, but it's not very likely given how it turned out here," university spokeswoman Anneli Vaara said.
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While Vilks escaped the incident with broken glasses and a bit of a shock, he said it raised concerns about the freedom of expression at Sweden's oldest and most prestigious institute of higher learning.

"What you get is a mob deciding what can be discussed at the university," Vilks told The Associated Press, adding he was ready to repeat the lecture if re-invited.

"I'm ready to go up again," he said. "This must be carried through. You cannot allow it to be stopped."

The 53-year-old artist has faced numerous threats over his 2007 sketch of Muhammad with a dog's body. Earlier this year U.S. investigators said he was the target of an alleged murder plot involving Colleen LaRose, an American woman who dubbed herself "Jihad Jane," and who now faces life in prison. She has pleaded not guilty.

Vilks' Web site appeared to have been exposed to a hacker attack on Wednesday. Instead of his regular blog there was a message saying the site had been hacked and with links to information about the Prophet Muhammad.

Witnesses said the violence Tuesday broke out a few minutes into Vilks' lecture about the limits of artistic freedom, when he showed a film by an Iranian artist about Islam and homosexuality. A young man leaped from his front-row seat and tried to attack Vilks, police and the artist said.

Vilks initially believed he was head-butted by the man, but said he later understood he had collided with plainclothes police officers who intercepted the attacker and then briskly evacuated Vilks from the room.

"This was the first time I've experienced a physical assault," Vilks said. "It was a bit of a shock."

A video of the incident showed agitated police officers clashing with protesters at the front of the lecture hall. A female police officer used pepper spray to subdue a young man, and another youngster was wrestled to the ground. Some protesters were shouting "God is great" in Arabic.

Uppsala police spokesman Jonas Eronen said two officers sustained minor injuries.

The attacker was detained on suspicion of attempted assault but was later released, he said. Two others — a man and a woman — were also released after questioning and could face charges of using violence against police. All suspects were in their late teens, Eronen said.

Vaara, the university spokeswoman, said the lecture had been open to the public and the suspects were not believed to be students, though she added she wasn't sure about that.

The incident was condemned by Swedish newspaper editorials calling it an attack on the freedom of speech, and in more moderate terms by the Scandinavian country's leading politician.

"It shows that there are tensions in this discussion, which I've had to follow for years," Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt told reporters in Stockholm. "I take it very seriously. There is a risk that tensions form between individuals and the Swedish society, which is something we don't want."

Helena Benauouda, the head of Sweden's Muslim Council, an umbrella group for Muslim organizations, declined comment, saying she didn't have enough information about the incident.

Vilks depicted Muhammad more than a year after 12 Danish newspaper cartoons of the prophet sparked furious protests in Muslim countries in 2006. Images of Muhammad, even favorable ones, are considered blasphemous by many Muslims.

A Swedish newspaper printed Vilks' drawing, leading to further protests, and revived a heated debate in the West and the Muslim world about religious sensitivities and the limits of free speech.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37105541/ns ... ws-europe/

[PublicAnimalNo9]

djakeydd djakeydd:

Sure, rc's call themselves the largest "Christian demonination. Bin laden calls himself a nice guy - big deal, they are not christian and it goes way beyond a few doctrinal differences. Mormons, sdas, jw's call themselves christian, they all deny the diety of Jesus Christ and the rcs have practiced blatant heresy for the better part of 2000 years. Rc's are also specifically refered to in Revelation as the great whore church - the church (vatican rome) built on 7 hills- drunk on the blood of the saints (those actual Christians who they murdered during the crusade, and im not talking muslims murdered as is historically populuar).

Well, I guess it's time to weigh in here. While I certainly believe that the Christianity of the RCC as an entity, its history and its hierarchy are up for debate, to say that NO Catholic is a Christian is a bit much. Ever worked with or dealt with the Sally Ann in time of need? Some DARN good people in the org.
They don't even care what religion or denomination you are.
A Christian is someone that believes Jesus was/is he Son of God, believed He ascended into Heaven after death and has truly accepted Him into their heart. Those individus who spread hatred and violence are obviously not Christian, regardless of what denomination they belong to or what they claim to "believe", as Christ's message has NOTHING to do with either.
Believe me, the RCC isn't the only mainstream Christian denomination with its fair share of "pew fillers".

[BartSimpson]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Well, I guess it's time to weigh in here. While I certainly believe that the Christianity of the RCC as an entity, its history and its hierarchy are up for debate, to say that NO Catholic is a Christian is a bit much. Ever worked with or dealt with the Sally Ann in time of need? Some DARN good people in the org.
They don't even care what religion or denomination you are.
A Christian is someone that believes Jesus was/is he Son of God, believed He ascended into Heaven after death and has truly accepted Him into their heart. Those individus who spread hatred and violence are obviously not Christian, regardless of what denomination they belong to or what they claim to "believe", as Christ's message has NOTHING to do with either.
Believe me, the RCC isn't the only mainstream Christian denomination with its fair share of "pew fillers".

In context it seems you're saying the Salvation Army is Catholic? Hate to break it to you, but it is English Protestant in origin and while I am sure individual Catholics have been members, the RCC does not recognize the organization.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

In context it seems you're saying the Salvation Army is Catholic? Hate to break it to you, but it is English Protestant in origin and while I am sure individual Catholics have been members, the RCC does not recognize the organization.

Well son of a gun. All these years I thought they were. Well then disregard that in the context I put it in.
Although what else I said about them still applies.

[bootlegga]

tritium tritium:

Their is your "Religion of Peace"

Look up Inquisition or Crusade and let me know which organization was the motivating force behind either.

Hate to break it to you sunshine, but almost every major religion on earth has been used at one time or another to justify violence against others.

Religion, on the surface should be a good thing, but it is far too often twisted by its followers to justify acts of evil.

[BartSimpson]

bootlegga bootlegga:

tritium tritium:

Their is your "Religion of Peace"

Look up Inquisition or Crusade and let me know which organization was the motivating force behind either.

Islam.

The Crusades were launched in response to the Islamic invasions and conquests of Christian countries and, in particular, the Holy Land. One aspect of the Crusades was the expulsion of the Islamic Moors from Spain and the Inquisition arose to sort out the Sephardic Jews who remained in Spain after the expulsion of the Moors. Most of the Sephardim fled Spain prior to the reconquista and resettled in other parts of the Ottoman Empire. After the reconquista a number of the Sephardim defied the order for all Jews to leave the Iberian peninsula and were then subject to the Inquisition whose original task was to ferret out those who were not Catholic.

The Sephardim were, in my opinion and that of many *Jewish* scholars, Islamic collaborators so the order for them to leave Spain & Portugal was justified both to divest them of the fruits of their collaboration with an occupying power and to remove their powerful influence in the receovered region.

The Inquisition, like any other police agency, eventually became abusive and went so far as to even challenge the power of the Pope and that led to their eventual dismissal.

But the source of both the Crusades and the Inquisition is the Islamic empire that invaded the Holy Land and Europe with the intent to subjugate them to both Islam and the rule of the Ottoman Caliph.

[N_Fiddledog]

Historically Christians did nasty things. Muslims did nasty things. Accepted. OK, now explain to me why that means I should ignore what's revealed in the video below. (Hang around to the end for the punch line).

[Bodah]

bootlegga bootlegga:

tritium tritium:

Their is your "Religion of Peace"

Look up Inquisition or Crusade and let me know which organization was the motivating force behind either.

And back the 11th century we go

[Bodah]

It beffudles me that people continually use the "other sides" religion no matter how far back to argue in context of what's happening in this century in order at the very least to excuse it.

Fine if you hate all religions but can't we just identify the nuts of our time and deal with them appropiately on a century to century basis at the very least ?

[BartSimpson]

Bodah Bodah:

It beffudles me that people continually use the "other sides" religion no matter how far back to argue in context of what's happening in this century in order at the very least to excuse it.

Fine if you hate all religions but can't we just identify the nuts of our time and deal with them appropiately on a century to century basis at the very least ?

It befuddles me, too.

In context, it's like you say something about Chinese trade policy and the response is, "Yeah, but those bastards in the Hanseatic League did worse back in the 1300's!!"

[ShepherdsDog]

bootlegga bootlegga:

tritium tritium:

Their is your "Religion of Peace"

Look up Inquisition or Crusade and let me know which organization was the motivating force behind either.

Hate to break it to you sunshine, but almost every major religion on earth has been used at one time or another to justify violence against others.

Religion, on the surface should be a good thing, but it is far too often twisted by its followers to justify acts of evil.

Crusades and Inquisition? Events that happened between 1100 and 1500(for the most part. Last time I looked at the calendar it was 2010. Why do some think things that happened centuries ago justify barbaric behaviour in other groups today? We use to burn witches in the 17th century.

Does that mean we should accept and allow other groups to do it today? Based on the logic presented in the quoted post, it would seem so.