[kenmore]

I vote we start a group to keep Muslims off our friggen planes and out of our airports!

[Bodah]

kenmore kenmore:

I vote we start a group to keep Muslims off our friggen planes and out of our airports!

[kenmore]

Blow me bodah!

[Lemmy]

That was a good read and an excellent post, Choban, right up to this part.

Choban Choban:

why should we not, as Canadians, expect that the millions of new people immigrating to our country will show their love for our country, their allegiance to our country, their
willingness to obey the laws of our country, and acceptance that we are a Christian country? Just because they are able to enjoy exercising their own religion, they should not expect us to be ashamed of ours. They knew Canada was a Christian country when they came here. Why are we erasing Christianity because immigrants who are unwilling to adopt our way of life expect us to? There is just too much insanity in the world, and we have to start taking a stand.

Canada USED to be a Christian country. It also used to be a racist country. Why are we erasing Christianity? Because Christianity is bullshit. We're erasing it because we're becoming smarter. Most of what was said in that piece you posted makes a lot of sense, but erasing Christianity is a good thing.

[kenmore]

Yes we are eroding Christianity.. the fastest growing religion is Muslim.. Why? because we are being complacent and allowing the infiltration of Muslims to happen. And even if you don't have any religious beliefs, what you have here and what your values and norms are will be eroded by pure numbers of Muslims who come here and to other countries with one agenda..to convert the world to Islam.. don't kid yourself if you think otherwise.

[Lemmy]

kenmore kenmore:

Yes we are eroding Christianity.. the fastest growing religion is Muslim.. Why? because we are being complacent and allowing the infiltration of Muslims to happen. And even if you don't have any religious beliefs, what you have here and what your values and norms are will be eroded by pure numbers of Muslims who come here and to other countries with one agenda..to convert the world to Islam.. don't kid yourself if you think otherwise.

That's two different things: eroding Christianity and growing Islam. All religion is bullshit. It's just that those of Christian tradition are figuring that out faster than those of Muslim tradition. But there's hope. Talk to 2nd or 3rd generation Canadians of Muslim origin. They're "getting it". I don't fear Muslim immigration to Canada because their kids are abandoning their religion too. It's amazing how sensible people become when they start to experience life in a Just Society.

[commanderkai]

Lemmy Lemmy:

Canada USED to be a Christian country. It also used to be a racist country. Why are we erasing Christianity? Because Christianity is bullshit. We're erasing it because we're becoming smarter. Most of what was said in that piece you posted makes a lot of sense, but erasing Christianity is a good thing.

Really? We're becoming smarter to "erase" Christianity, and instead replace it with a more violent religious faith? That's SMARTER? Many of the issues we face today is because of the secular "all religions are equal" politically correct bullshit. You might not like religion, fine, whatever floats your boat, but don't kid yourself if you think that secularized Canada is somehow better when parts of the country are apologists for extremist Islam, we're not having enough children to be self sufficient, and we're politically correct with anything that might offend immigrants, Muslims, or whatever minority who wants to have a tantrum.

[Proculation]

Lemmy Lemmy:

kenmore kenmore:

Yes we are eroding Christianity.. the fastest growing religion is Muslim.. Why? because we are being complacent and allowing the infiltration of Muslims to happen. And even if you don't have any religious beliefs, what you have here and what your values and norms are will be eroded by pure numbers of Muslims who come here and to other countries with one agenda..to convert the world to Islam.. don't kid yourself if you think otherwise.

That's two different things: eroding Christianity and growing Islam. All religion is bullshit. It's just that those of Christian tradition are figuring that out faster than those of Muslim tradition. But there's hope. Talk to 2nd or 3rd generation Canadians of Muslim origin. They're "getting it". I don't fear Muslim immigration to Canada because their kids are abandoning their religion too. It's amazing how sensible people become when they start to experience life in a Just Society.

Want it or not, it's a battle of religions. A battle between us and them. Good and evil. Light and darkness. Lucidity and obscurity. Call it what you want. You can't just say to the muslims "go away, i don't want to play your game". They want our destruction and we have to step in to stop them.

[Lemmy]

commanderkai commanderkai:

Really? We're becoming smarter to "erase" Christianity, and instead replace it with a more violent religious faith? That's SMARTER?

Of course not. I never said anything remotely like that.

commanderkai commanderkai:

Many of the issues we face today is because of the secular "all religions are equal" politically correct bullshit. You might not like religion, fine, whatever floats your boat, but don't kid yourself if you think that secularized Canada is somehow better when parts of the country are apologists for extremist Islam, we're not having enough children to be self sufficient, and we're politically correct with anything that might offend immigrants, Muslims, or whatever minority who wants to have a tantrum.

But all religions ARE equal...they're equally bullshit. Christianity only seems more moderate than Islam because fewer people follow it in a fundamental way than used to. Change takes time. Over time, devotion to ALL relgions will decrease. We're better now than 50 years ago. 50 years from now we'll be better still. I don't fear Muslims-Canadians because, in a few generations, they're more likely to become non-Muslim by virtue of living in Canada. Muslims in Canada are a lot more likely to be cured of their delusions over the generations than if they'd stayed in Syria or Pakistan or whereever. If you want to get rid of Islam, bring 'em all over for a taste of modern, western prosperity and democracy.

Humans in the future will wonder at how silly we must have been to have once followed religions. They'll think us as foolish as we think ancient humans were for thinking the Earth was flat.

[PimpBrewski123]

Lemmy Lemmy:

If you want to get rid of Islam, bring 'em all over for a taste of modern, western prosperity and democracy.

Completely disagree.

Be much better to bring the ''western'' modern democracy per say in the middle east or whatever. Ya know the ol' saying, Teach a man how to fish.

But then, some civilisations are simply unwilling to adopt philosophies different than theirs.

You can inject millions, billions, trillions in some countries for example, there is that inability for themselves to self govern. Immigration is not the solution.

[Lemmy]

PimpBrewski123 PimpBrewski123:

Be much better to bring the ''western'' modern democracy in the middle east or whatever. Ya know the ol' saying, Teach a man how to fish.

But then, some civilisations are simply unwilling to adopt philosophies different then theirs.

You can inject millions, billions, trillions in some countries for example, there is that inability for themselves to self govern. Immigration is not the solution.

You're contradicting yourself. It can't be both a) "better to educate them"; and b) "impossible to get them change philosophy". If 'b' is true, then, by definition, it's not better to educate. That would be a waste of time. But what they won't believe in Iran, they might believe in Canada. We CAN educate them here because they live the proof.

[PimpBrewski123]

Sure, there are better ways to explain.

The simplest way would be, let's say eventhough they can't improve their own civilisation on their own soil, eventough Western nations have injected billions, then how do you expect these same people to do it on ''Western'' soil. But then, this does not include every country either.

Also this does not imply to every immigrant. Altough as noticed on some occasions, some groups are somewhat reluctant to adapt to their adoptive country's values and traditions. That's all.

[KorbenDeck]

$1:

"The Qur'an has commanded the believers, both men and women, to cover their private parts. Human beings are urged to be modest in their dress,"

It also commands the killing of non-believers so get the fucken scan, and pet the nice dog sniffing to make sure u have no bomb.

[andyt]

PimpBrewski123 PimpBrewski123:

Lemmy Lemmy:

If you want to get rid of Islam, bring 'em all over for a taste of modern, western prosperity and democracy.

Completely disagree.

Be much better to bring the ''western'' modern democracy per say in the middle east or whatever. Ya know the ol' saying, Teach a man how to fish.

But then, some civilisations are simply unwilling to adopt philosophies different than theirs.

You can inject millions, billions, trillions in some countries for example, there is that inability for themselves to self govern. Immigration is not the solution.

A lot of the upper level jihadis seem to have studied or worked over here. Their taste of western prosperity and democracy sure didn't stop them from turning into nutbars. Then we have the home grown jihadis - they've been tasting our bounteous offerings since births and still want to kill us.

We do seem to to need something to counterbalance Muslim beliefs - and unfortunately humanism, prosperity and good government don't seem to get people excited enough to fight for. I worry that we will start growing more nutbar Christians here to push back against Islam - but living under a modern day Torquemada doesn't sound any preferable to Osammy.

[kenmore]

Yesterday when the plane crashed into the building in Austin Texas some of us nurses gathered in the patient lounge to watch the news. There was a young resident doctor there ( muslim). We all had the same sick stomach feeling as during 9/11.. we all noted that he had a grinning smile on his face...... they all have the same agenda.. don't kid yourself.