[DoyleG]

One of the charged is from across the border.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/1002 ... rs_charged

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Police says 22-year-old Daniel Frederick Myers of Shoreline, Wash., is facing a charge of possession of a dangerous weapon and possession of a prohibited weapon.

[tritium]

DoyleG DoyleG:

One of the charged is from across the border.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/1002 ... rs_charged

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Police says 22-year-old Daniel Frederick Myers of Shoreline, Wash., is facing a charge of possession of a dangerous weapon and possession of a prohibited weapon.

Geeez, nutjobs from the USA coming here to cause shit.

[N_Fiddledog]

andyt andyt:

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Who's financing these guys?

Financing who? The provocateurs are police getting their regular salary. I doubt if the regular shit disturbers need any financing, it doesn't take much money to go and break stuff.

I'm sorry. I didn't read your post. I wasn't talking about these mythic police provocateurs. I don't believe they exist, unless you have something like hard evidence. To be honest the suggestion of police provocateurs seems a little silly.

No. I mean who's financing these protesters. They're organized. That takes financing. Protesting appears to be their profession. How do they survive? Often they travel great distances. Who pays for their transportation? There's money behind these protesters. Where's it coming from?

In the olden days there used to be these guys called journalists. They used to do this thing called investigating. They'd do the investigating thing even if the answers might not favor their politics. Wish they were still around. They'd have some answers, I bet.

[Bodah]

The thugs in black destroying shit reminded me of a Batman comic the only thing missing was someone dressed up as the joker.

[andyt]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

No. I mean who's financing these protesters. They're organized. That takes financing. Protesting appears to be their profession. How do they survive? Often they travel great distances. Who pays for their transportation? There's money behind these protesters. Where's it coming from?

Ok the protesters in general or the violent ones? Organizing 100 dickheads doesn't take any money. Just some electronic messaging, which everybody has access to. The bigger groups are going to be funded by donations from members, I would guess. Some are community groups that get funding from the govt. I doubt if there's the equivalent of the Saudi Royal family to fund these guys. One very prominent anti-Olympic activist is a medical technician, so they're not all poor and broke. Again, to organize a group just takes some meetings and getting the word out, which is very cheap these days. I do know other activists have said in the media they're on welfare because they don't think they should have to work. So likely a good portion is on welfare and being funded by us in that sense.

As for agent provocateurs, I of course have no proof of it - if I did you would be reading about it in the media. But I'm certain that for large events, if the police expect a large protest, they may want to tip it into violence so they can break it up.

[N_Fiddledog]

andyt andyt:

Ok the protesters in general or the violent ones?

The professional ones. The ones whose faces keep popping up at different protests. The organizers. The guys who had the bucks to jump on planes to Copenhagen. The guy who was stopped on the plane from Chicago. The ones who came here from the east coast. The local, professional rabble rousers. The guy who jumped up on that stage when the Olympics were announced and grabbed the mike from that girl. The guys with the action plan. They guys printing, and handing out pamphlets. The guys who if you were a cop, they'd have the phones you'd want to tap.

The internet is helpful to such types, no doubt. It does not fully explain their existence.

As to police riot starters; you're stepping into tinfoil country with that one. Actually, you're jumping in with both feet.

[andyt]

I know, agent provocateur is just a term somebody made up for fun. It was happening in the 60's, it happened with the FLQ and the RCMP burning down that barn, I'm sure it's happening now. But, it's a nicer dream to think otherwise.

The guy from Chicago is anti-olympic bid in Chicago 2016, He's doing what you anti-protesters suggest, trying to stop them before they get off the ground. He's got a good job for NPR, and likely his group gets donations as well. As I said, one of the most prominent guys involved in the anti-olympic protests here is a medical technician. I guess not everybody involved in this stuff is a poor hippy. Guys like Garth Mullins, who really is a professional protester, ie community activist, I don't know how he makes his money. Maybe people like that have more support than you think. There's always been a radical chic element out there.

You've asked the question several times - what's your theory?

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Wish I had the cash to go and protest something in a foreign country that has ZERO effect on my life.
As for the homegrown protesters, they should post the names of those that were arrested for vandalism, then we can all go visit their properties and "exercise our Charter Rights" by smashing their windows and damaging their homes.
And for those that aren't from Canada, a lifetime ban from ever entering the country again would be appropo.

[N_Fiddledog]

andyt andyt:

You've asked the question several times - what's your theory?

I have no theory as to where these professional protesters get their money. I know I'd like to know though, and wonder why the press is so shy about looking into it.

[andyt]

For a reasoned argument that the Garth Mullins's of the world have their place: http://www.rafeonline.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=89814

[coltsrmint2]

We should take the pussy's that were hiding their faces and put them in jail until the games are over. Then post their names in the media so we can "exercise our Charter Rights" everytime we see them....

As for "agent provocateur" that is the funniest thing I have heard in a while......

[andyt]

coltsrmint2 coltsrmint2:

As for "agent provocateur" that is the funniest thing I have heard in a while......

http://www.straight.com/article-241166/isu-wont-rule-out-agents-provocateurs

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The RCMP-led security force for the 2010 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games won't rule out the use of agents provocateurs to incite protesters to commit illegal acts.

Speaking on behalf of the Vancouver 2010 Integrated Security Unit, Cpl. Jen Allan said the ISU is charged with ensuring people's safety. “We are not in a position to detail a specific operational plan as to how we are going to fulfill that obligation,” Allan explained to the Georgia Straight in a telephone interview.

[PostFactum]

Good police job

[DoyleG]

tritium tritium:

DoyleG DoyleG:

One of the charged is from across the border.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/1002 ... rs_charged

$1:

Police says 22-year-old Daniel Frederick Myers of Shoreline, Wash., is facing a charge of possession of a dangerous weapon and possession of a prohibited weapon.

Geeez, nutjobs from the USA coming here to cause shit.

There is much poverty in his hometown it appears.