[PublicAnimalNo9]

andyt andyt:

You're falling into the exact same trap that I fell into by assuming that I'm partisan. Well, I am in the sense that I'm anti reformacon. But I've voted all over the spectrum, including for John Fraser when he was running - he was a conservative I could respect. I have a lot of use for old timey type conservatives, especially the 'red' type, but the neocons just stick in my throat.

Sure, you're rigbt about all politicians selling their soul for power - they have to, otherwise they won't get in. From my view, tho, the reformacons just seem better at moral outrage, maybe because I'm so partisan.

Well, I've seen the Liberals moral outrage in action as well. Trying to fry Harper for the same shit that the Cretin pulled off. Blaming the current conservatives for the issues in Afghanistan. Even some of the pathetic Liberal bean-heads trying to blame Harper for the current global depression.
And I've seen the Cons do the same with the Liberals. Then I watch C-PAC and get to see a bunch of "adults" behaving worse than a group of special-ed kindergarteners.
Both parties have seriously abused Parliamentary procedure. Both parties have told us HUGE lies, and neither party seems to have ANY accountability, or ethics for that matter. Remember when the Cretin made it so the Ethics Minister reported directly and ONLY to the PM's office? Kinda blows the whole purpose of having an ethics minister don't it?
They say you get the government you deserve, and in some cases it's true. But in Canada, we get the gov't the party hacks want, not what we deserve, or want.
The Cretin rocketed to power based mainly on his promise to scrap the hated GST. That promise lasted as long as it took him to get elected. Don't get me wrong and think I'm still just a Liberal basher. Mulroney was an even bigger asshole than the Cretin. At least Jean didn't try and sell this country to the US one piece at a time.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, at the federal level, BOTH parties suck ass.

[martin14]

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[Curtman]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Well, I've seen the Liberals moral outrage in action as well. Trying to fry Harper for the same shit that the Cretin pulled off. Blaming the current conservatives for the issues in Afghanistan. Even some of the pathetic Liberal bean-heads trying to blame Harper for the current global depression.

Chretien never prorogued with 36 bills left in a session. Chretien prorogued 4 times in 10 years, Harper prorogued 3 times in 4 years. Chretien had a majority. It's not exactly the same shit.

The Conservatives job was to intervene in Afghanistan, not to ignore reports of abuse.

Harper campaigned that he would save us from the global depression. He did not campaign that there was no global depression.

[2Cdo]

Curtman Curtman:

Harper campaigned that he would save us from the global depression. He did not campaign that there was no global depression.

And by most accounts we are far better off than most nations in regards to this recession. I look forward to you thanking the PM for keeping us from sliding into the global depression.

Sometimes you make it too easy.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Curtman Curtman:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Well, I've seen the Liberals moral outrage in action as well. Trying to fry Harper for the same shit that the Cretin pulled off. Blaming the current conservatives for the issues in Afghanistan. Even some of the pathetic Liberal bean-heads trying to blame Harper for the current global depression.

Chretien never prorogued with 36 bills left in a session. Chretien prorogued 4 times in 10 years, Harper prorogued 3 times in 4 years. Chretien had a majority. It's not exactly the same shit.

The Conservatives job was to intervene in Afghanistan, not to ignore reports of abuse.

Harper campaigned that he would save us from the global depression. He did not campaign that there was no global depression.

And more BS from Mr.Partisan. Too bad you completely misunderstood the direction of my post. And I guess you think proroguing parliament a la Harper is much more evil than having the Ethics Minister report directly and only to the PM?
It's too bad you can't see the forest for the colon your head is shoved up. My post was about BOTH parties sucking. Only a true liberal (or conservative) dead head could possibly make partisan comments about a totally non-partisan post.

[Curtman]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Curtman Curtman:

Harper campaigned that he would save us from the global depression. He did not campaign that there was no global depression.

And by most accounts we are far better off than most nations in regards to this recession. I look forward to you thanking the PM for keeping us from sliding into the global depression.

Thanks go to the surplus he inherited and squandered away with corporate tax cuts.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

And more BS from Mr.Partisan. Too bad you completely misunderstood the direction of my post. And I guess you think proroguing parliament a la Harper is much more evil than having the Ethics Minister report directly and only to the PM?

Who's Mr. Partisan, me? Which party am I a partisan for? Is there a way I can officially request a 'coalition' banner, or do I have to make it myself?

I do think giving the power to prorogue to the prime minister alone is a bad idea. Which other country allows this?

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

My post was about BOTH parties sucking

My post is about there being more than two parties.

[2Cdo]

Curtman Curtman:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Curtman Curtman:

Harper campaigned that he would save us from the global depression. He did not campaign that there was no global depression.

And by most accounts we are far better off than most nations in regards to this recession. I look forward to you thanking the PM for keeping us from sliding into the global depression.

Thanks go to the surplus he inherited and squandered away with corporate tax cuts.

More corporate taxes equal less corporations in Canada which mean less workers paying taxes. You truly have no clue.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

No, your post was an attack on Harper while defending the Cretin's actions by not even acknowledging them. Very partisan. And besides, which of the other parties ever ran the country? The only 2 that ever have, sucked at it in recent years.
We had a Liberal government that called out the army over 9 holes of useless golf. And now we have a Conservative government that will do NOTHING in Caledon.
Wanna know why yer partisan? My post was a reflection of BOTH major parties screwing us over. YOUR post was purely anti-Harper. I can acknowledge the idiocy in both major parties, or if you prefer, the Left and the Right, I don't know why you are unable to do so.

[Curtman]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

No, your post was an attack on Harper while defending the Cretin's actions by not even acknowledging them. Very partisan. And besides, which of the other parties ever ran the country? The only 2 that ever have, sucked at it in recent years.
We had a Liberal government that called out the army over 9 holes of useless golf. And now we have a Conservative government that will do NOTHING in Caledon.
Wanna know why yer partisan? My post was a reflection of BOTH major parties screwing us over. YOUR post was purely anti-Harper. I can acknowledge the idiocy in both major parties, or if you prefer, the Left and the Right, I don't know why you are unable to do so.

It is not a partisan defense of Chretien to correct your false statement.

[Curtman]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

More corporate taxes equal less corporations in Canada which mean less workers paying taxes. You truly have no clue.

You can take that up with Lemmy if you like. He'll tell you all about how tax cuts will increase revenue. The reality is a structural deficit.

[FieryVulpine]

Perhaps that PETA member from South Park was right about elections/parties. It's always between a giant douche (their words, not mine) and a turd sandwich because they are the only ones who suck up enough to make it in politics.

Pity said character was also a sodomist.