[Lemmy]

Brenda Brenda:

The houses are privately owned. The government isnt telling them anything, they just rent it out, pay their mortgage (which is usually what the renter pays, original mortgage amount + property taxes and some extra, their mortgage goes down, rent goes up every year), and don't maintain the property.
I don't know how it works in the big city, but that is how it works here.

Socialization doesn't mean "the government tells you how much you can get for it". It means way more than that. You don't see dumps like I see here in The Netherlands.

I'm not familiar with the Dutch situation, but the usual scheme is a "price ceiling" which creates excess demand. There's no reason I can think of for a landlord to allow his property to fall into disrepair if he can choose his rental rate without government interference.

[Brenda]

Lemmy Lemmy:

Brenda Brenda:

The houses are privately owned. The government isnt telling them anything, they just rent it out, pay their mortgage (which is usually what the renter pays, original mortgage amount + property taxes and some extra, their mortgage goes down, rent goes up every year), and don't maintain the property.
I don't know how it works in the big city, but that is how it works here.

Socialization doesn't mean "the government tells you how much you can get for it". It means way more than that. You don't see dumps like I see here in The Netherlands.

I'm not familiar with the Dutch situation, but the usual scheme is a "price ceiling" which creates excess demand. There's no reason I can think of for a landlord to allow his property to fall into disrepair if he can choose his rental rate without government interference.

What about "I own half the town, pay or fuck off, see if you can get something else, I don't think so".

[GreenTiger]

I don't think you would have a lot of closet space for clothes.

[andyt]

martin14 martin14:

Help yes, but help to purchase.

Really? You're going to help someone on welfare or making $8/hr purchase their home? In Vancouver? Shelter allowance for single person on welfare is $375/mo. That's a lot of help they're going to need.

[Lemmy]

Brenda Brenda:

What about "I own half the town, pay or fuck off, see if you can get something else, I don't think so".

Well, that's a different issue altogether that really has nothing to do with the government's role in the rental market. Still, it's hard to imagine that there isn't any choice for you. You'd think SOME entrepreneur would step up and provide some competition. I guess that's Holland for you.

[Brenda]

Lemmy Lemmy:

Brenda Brenda:

What about "I own half the town, pay or fuck off, see if you can get something else, I don't think so".

Well, that's a different issue altogether that really has nothing to do with the government's role in the rental market. Still, it's hard to imagine that there isn't any choice for you. You'd think SOME entrepreneur would step up and provide some competition. I guess that's Holland for you.

It is exactly why I think the government should get involved.

[commanderkai]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Of course, Van can pass a law like New York had that guaranteed rent controlled apartments to residents after renovations. The consequence of that law were scores and scores of abandoned apartment buildings and literally miles of blight.

You forgot one more thing. Dozens of Law and Order episodes referencing land lords murdering their rent controlled tenants

[ASLplease]

After working an 80 hour week to afford the rent, I will feel so privileged to find that I live in a shoe.