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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:27 pm
 


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Personally, as an enemy fighter, if he wants to meet Allah let him go screaming in agony the entire way. No need to help him along.


So you want Samrau punished because he didn't prolong the Talib's suffering?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:27 pm
 


Why wow? It's exactly the same. Right?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:34 pm
 


Not so sure the "shot while escaping" defense would work unless this were the German Army circa 1943, ROE's being what they are and all!


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:37 pm
 


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Why wow? It's exactly the same. Right?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:39 pm
 


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Not so sure the "shot while escaping" defense would work unless this were the German Army circa 1943, ROE's being what they are and all!


LOL! I'm not 100% certain but I'm sure in the fine print of the ROE card its in there.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:40 pm
 


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An argument could be made that the wounded Taliban was suffering and Semrau was only putting him out of his misery.

Drapeau said Canadian and international humanitarian law does not recognize mercy killings and it's unlikely such a defence would stand.


Well, mercy killing should be recognized, in civilian life too. And I think international law does recognized euthanasia in say Holland, Switzerland, etc. This seems to be a similar case. They guy was dying anyway and no treatment would help. So Semrau put him out of his misery. A decent act.

Except that many of the people who defend Semrau would probably howl like dogs if the Talibani did it to one of our guys. Can you imagine Hillier crediting them for a humanitarian act?


I am trained how to react to an ambush. I have rockets or arty coming in on my position and I will act accordingly. Want me to be part of an ambush, go on a patrol, secure and hold an area and I know exactly what to do.

Have me look at a wounded person and decided if they are beyond saving or not and I am absolutely clueless. Mercy killing is illegal for a reason. What would stop some person of say "loose morals" to go to some individual that say has a leg wound and stating he is beyond saving?

A better defense would be killed while attempting escape....

Personally, as an enemy fighter, if he wants to meet Allah let him go screaming in agony the entire way. No need to help him along.


I agree. Discipline must be maintained, especially in combat.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:57 pm
 


No body, no crime.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:00 pm
 


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No body, no crime.



thats why I wonder why it got this far.

No body, no cause of death, no reason for any of this foolishness.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:43 pm
 


martin14 martin14:
Nuggie77 Nuggie77:
No body, no crime.



thats why I wonder why it got this far.

No body, no cause of death, no reason for any of this foolishness.


Right…… :roll:

Let’s put our collective heads in the sand and pretend there’s nothing wrong with this. Let’s send our armed forces around the world where actions without regard to the rule of law is just fine.

Again.... IF the report is true, he’s guilty of murder and certainly does not represent the values of my country.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:33 pm
 


Ah, and so rushes on the lynch-mob.

Nice to see you have such an open mind. Conservative supporter that hates the Tories.

Now you support our armed forces but they are guilty before they have even been tried. They just go "around the world where actions without regard to the rule of law is just fine."

Your unbiased support for the Tories and the Canadian Forces is truly appreciated.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:36 pm
 


I don't think that's fair Brock - he said if the report is true

If the report is true he should be found not guilty IMO. But there should be a trial or similar investigation to try to get out the facts. It's a close call, I think, if what he did is right or wrong.

Maybe you have some history with this guy about what constitutes support of the tories. But to equate supporting this soldier being charged with being against the tories, well that's the same scummy tactics the CRAP party engages in themselves. Don't know why you would call them the tories anyway. Do you call the liberals whigs?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:38 pm
 


We have seen a lot more of poquas than you have andy.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:42 pm
 


EyeBrock EyeBrock:
We have seen a lot more of poquas than you have andy.


See my edited post above

The only thing that can be said in support of the Reformacons is that at least this inquiry is going ahead, they didn't prorogue the trial too. See, it's not that hard to be open and above board at all.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:48 pm
 


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Okay, so if it was a mercy killing, it's wrong. If he just shot the guy, it's okay?

Brilliant concept everybody. And I say that with loads of sarcasm.


No, no, no. If it was a mercy killing, then that's what it was. But do you believe that it was a mercy killing? I don't. It was a combat killing and the soldier shouldn't fear that he has to lie that it was something else for it to be a justified killing.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:50 pm
 


andyt andyt:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
We have seen a lot more of poquas than you have andy.


See my edited post above

The only thing that can be said in support of the Reformacons is that at least this inquiry is going ahead, they didn't prorogue the trial too. See, it's not that hard to be open and above board at all.


I don't get your point on 'Reformacons', or 'prorogueing the trial' too?

Prorogue is a parliamentary procedure and not in the least bit related to a Courts Martial.


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