[commanderkai]

Hmm...well meh, I shop in the United States for everything, so...oh well.

[gonavy47]

Somebody here forget that McGuinty is a liberal?

[gigs]

The Liberals like to take credit for it.

""I'm not waffling. I'm skating," said Rae, MP for Toronto Centre and a former premier of Ontario, acknowledging that federal Liberals were the ones who began the push for harmonized sales taxes when they were in power.But the potential for voters to punish politicians over the HST – as well as the Liberals' bid to present it as a federal Conservative idea – is making the official Opposition skittish

http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/hst ... -hst-stand

[Lemmy]

commanderkai commanderkai:

Hmm...well meh, I shop in the United States for everything, so...oh well.

You still have to pay tax on things you buy in the States, unless you're a smuggler, no?

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Lemmy Lemmy:

commanderkai commanderkai:

Hmm...well meh, I shop in the United States for everything, so...oh well.

You still have to pay tax on things you buy in the States, unless you're a smuggler, no?

Depends on what you buy. I used to cross border shop all the time when I lived in Windsor.

[Lemmy]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Depends on what you buy. I used to cross border shop all the time when I lived in Windsor.

Did you follow the rules?

[EyeBrock]

I'll keep ordering my camera gear from Alberta. No PST/HST and free shipping.

[herbie]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I'll keep ordering my camera gear from Alberta. No PST/HST and free shipping.

Until some Mandarin finds out and fines you the HST plus $1,000s.
These are the pricks who went after me once, bought a boat at a garage sale and rebuilt it from scratch. Firbreglas, paint, windcreen, motor. Registered it and then they hit me with GST, but later one little ass decided I didn't pay $800 for it and assessed it at $56,000 (for a 14 ft runabout), tacked on 7% GST , a $1000 fine, interest for two years (less my $56) and froze my bank account. Took a fucking lawyer, 3 mos to hunt down the original garage sale guy (he'd moved - that's why he had a garage sale) a 300 mile drive and dinner to get him to sign an affadavit in front of a notary (another $25).
No one ever looked at the boat, they just made the figure up out of thin air. A couple years later I sold it with a trailer and a 60hp & a 6hp motor for $2000. Hoped the buyer got a different guy when he paid the GST.
He didn't. He was native.
About 5 years later I got a call from Kelowna RCMP. The boat washed up near Kelowna after a storm and they tracked the registration to me. Told them I'd long forgotten the buyer's name and they said if I wanted I could come get the boat as it was legally mine.
I wanted nothing more to do with that damn boat. Told the officer he could sell it and buy beer for the whole detachment!

A couple years back there was a big to-do here about El Gordo wanting police to stop and search travellers coming from Alberta to collect the PST because so many people up North were shopping in Edmonton!

[Brenda]

Lemmy Lemmy:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Depends on what you buy. I used to cross border shop all the time when I lived in Windsor.

Did you follow the rules?

I noticed it is not worth the drive to crossborder shop, since you pay taxes in the states (really, washington has sales tax. Not as much, but they do on some items) and at the border, which makes for paying more than when I buy it here.

Depends on how long you stay how much credit you get. Just a couple of hours gets you nothing, and a motel stay ain't worth it.

[Zipperfish]

DerbyX DerbyX:

ridenrain ridenrain:

I didn't say Iggy was responsible but the framework for provincial HST was established before he, or Harper took office.

This is just empty headed spin.

No this is just hapless cons trying to blame Iggy for their own faults.

No it's just the usual Conservative inferiority complex. Despite the fact that Harper is Prime Minister, and that the Conservatives have formed the government for the past few years, they remain utterly convinced that it is, in fact, Iggy that is in charge.

[EyeBrock]

herbie herbie:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I'll keep ordering my camera gear from Alberta. No PST/HST and free shipping.

Until some Mandarin finds out and fines you the HST plus $1,000s.
These are the pricks who went after me once, bought a boat at a garage sale and rebuilt it from scratch. Firbreglas, paint, windcreen, motor. Registered it and then they hit me with GST, but later one little ass decided I didn't pay $800 for it and assessed it at $56,000 (for a 14 ft runabout), tacked on 7% GST , a $1000 fine, interest for two years (less my $56) and froze my bank account. Took a fucking lawyer, 3 mos to hunt down the original garage sale guy (he'd moved - that's why he had a garage sale) a 300 mile drive and dinner to get him to sign an affadavit in front of a notary (another $25).
No one ever looked at the boat, they just made the figure up out of thin air. A couple years later I sold it with a trailer and a 60hp & a 6hp motor for $2000. Hoped the buyer got a different guy when he paid the GST.
He didn't. He was native.
About 5 years later I got a call from Kelowna RCMP. The boat washed up near Kelowna after a storm and they tracked the registration to me. Told them I'd long forgotten the buyer's name and they said if I wanted I could come get the boat as it was legally mine.
I wanted nothing more to do with that damn boat. Told the officer he could sell it and buy beer for the whole detachment!

A couple years back there was a big to-do here about El Gordo wanting police to stop and search travellers coming from Alberta to collect the PST because so many people up North were shopping in Edmonton!

It's not an offence to ship camera products from other provinces in Canada, and it's not required to 'declare' taxes on a photographic product shipped from one province to another.
I checked this out. There's no duty on camera gear from the US either, but us over taxed types in Ontario get whacked with 8% PST and 5% GST from the US, whereas stuff from Alberta, I only pay the PST and save the 8% Dalton tax. Well worth it on expensive lenses.

[commanderkai]

Lemmy Lemmy:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Depends on what you buy. I used to cross border shop all the time when I lived in Windsor.

Did you follow the rules?

Who knows. But for the most part, if it's just groceries and such, they won't say anything, even if they do search your car. They have better things to try to make you declare.

[Brenda]

commanderkai commanderkai:

Lemmy Lemmy:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Depends on what you buy. I used to cross border shop all the time when I lived in Windsor.

Did you follow the rules?

Who knows. But for the most part, if it's just groceries and such, they won't say anything, even if they do search your car. They have better things to try to make you declare.

Maybe there, but not here. I had to pay tax over groceries and clothes.

[BeaverFever]

Meh, its what the business community wanted, which is why the federal conservatives are for the HST. Its also why the provincial conservatives "laid the framework" when they were in power in Ontario and can now score points from the sidelines when the other party follows through with plans.

we live in a capitalist society, people. that means with any party in government, its always business first, people second. Doesnt matter what party is in power, the HST was going to come sooner or later.

[gigs]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Meh, its what the business community wanted, which is why the federal conservatives are for the HST. Its also why the provincial conservatives "laid the framework" when they were in power in Ontario and can now score points from the sidelines when the other party follows through with plans.

we live in a capitalist society, people. that means with any party in government, its always business first, people second. Doesnt matter what party is in power, the HST was going to come sooner or later.

Which is also why the Liberals went for the HST. Which is also why the LPC started the push for HST.