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ridenrain
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Posts: 22594
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:07 pm
I completely agree but it's very difficult to find news stories or examples to prove that. If you run accross one, please post it.
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Posts: 6584
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:42 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: I completely agree but it's very difficult to find news stories or examples to prove that. If you run accross one, please post it. Like that one about a millionaire from Westmount paying 7$ per day for daycare while the single mom on welfare cannot find a place since 1 year ? Yes, that happens. That's universality of programs: poors get poorer, rich get richer.
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Posts: 4805
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:11 am
PimpBrewski123 PimpBrewski123: People should look at the one already established in the province of Quebec. The population is often not made aware of several factors through the media. The costs to the province are simply outrageous. The PQ used the program to benefit their ''friends'' at some CPE as usual.
Only a few actually benefit of the system while the ones that need it most are often ignored. It has not shown to benefit the majority of the population. It is simply another of those bureaucratic programs. Agreed, People often using this program in Quebec are families with a nice house, two cars. Both parents speed off to work to good jobs after they drop off their kids at 1$ a day daycare. That the rest of us pay for. Why some people choose to have strangers raise their children when they could do it themselves is beyond me. Why people that could afford to raise their own children demand the rest of us to flip the bill is appalling.
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Posts: 4914
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:51 am
as a married guy with no kids, I would also like to say screw up! pay for your own dam kids!!
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ridenrain
CKA Uber
Posts: 22594
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:40 am
You'll just spend the money on beer & popcorn anyways.. 
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Posts: 14139
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:10 am
RAISE YER OWN FUCKING KIDS!! Why the fuck should I help pay for some married assholes to have a stranger raise their kid(s)?
What really pisses me off is the single parents that don't work because they are on the system and yet send their kids to daycare. What the hell for?
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Posts: 11907
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:28 am
It's been said by several already but I'll add to it. They are YOUR kids, not mine. I raised my kids with my wife working evenings while I worked days so we minimized the daycare costs. When we did use a daycare service, WE paid for it out of our pocket. If you can't afford to have children, DON"T!
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OnTheIce 
CKA Uber
Posts: 10666
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:59 am
2Cdo 2Cdo: It's been said by several already but I'll add to it. They are YOUR kids, not mine. I raised my kids with my wife working evenings while I worked days so we minimized the daycare costs. When we did use a daycare service, WE paid for it out of our pocket. If you can't afford to have children, DON"T! For all of you who share the same feeling as above.... Did you return your baby bonus(or whatever the officlal name is) money you got from your children? Did you opt-out of your tax rebates for dependents that you got on an annual basis for your children? Considering they're your children, there's no reason the government should be giving you anything so I would assume it was returned in good faith.
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Posts: 14139
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:15 pm
OnTheIce OnTheIce: 2Cdo 2Cdo: It's been said by several already but I'll add to it. They are YOUR kids, not mine. I raised my kids with my wife working evenings while I worked days so we minimized the daycare costs. When we did use a daycare service, WE paid for it out of our pocket. If you can't afford to have children, DON"T! For all of you who share the same feeling as above.... Did you return your baby bonus(or whatever the officlal name is) money you got from your children? Did you opt-out of your tax rebates for dependents that you got on an annual basis for your children? Considering they're your children, there's no reason the government should be giving you anything so I would assume it was returned in good faith. There's a far cry between a rebate/baby bonus and providing a means for parents to opt out of the raising of their children and expecting everyone else to pony up for it. Tell me, why should I pay for strangers to look after your kids?
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Posts: 8157
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:27 pm
So, how's about extending maternity leave instead.
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Posts: 8851
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:30 pm
Robair Robair: So, how's about extending maternity leave instead. I'm all for that idea. As long as it is non taxpayer paid! Otherwise, what's the difference?
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Posts: 6584
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:32 pm
OnTheIce OnTheIce: 2Cdo 2Cdo: It's been said by several already but I'll add to it. They are YOUR kids, not mine. I raised my kids with my wife working evenings while I worked days so we minimized the daycare costs. When we did use a daycare service, WE paid for it out of our pocket. If you can't afford to have children, DON"T! For all of you who share the same feeling as above.... Did you return your baby bonus(or whatever the officlal name is) money you got from your children? Did you opt-out of your tax rebates for dependents that you got on an annual basis for your children? Considering they're your children, there's no reason the government should be giving you anything so I would assume it was returned in good faith. You're right ! Receiving money to help to pay for daycare is totally fine. People need to work thus the children need daycare. But, the govt. should not screw with the market (efficiency) by providing daycare. Helping families doesn't mess with the market.
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Posts: 8157
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:36 pm
Yogi Yogi: Robair Robair: So, how's about extending maternity leave instead. I'm all for that idea. As long as it is non taxpayer paid! Otherwise, what's the difference? Less overhead I guess. You aren't adding a new program, just extending one already in place. No new daycares to build, people to hire. One parent actually gets to raise the kid(s). Don't know if it would be more cost effective or not.
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Posts: 8851
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:54 pm
Robair Robair: Yogi Yogi: Robair Robair: So, how's about extending maternity leave instead. I'm all for that idea. As long as it is non taxpayer paid! Otherwise, what's the difference? Less overhead I guess. You aren't adding a new program, just extending one already in place. No new daycares to build, people to hire. One parent actually gets to raise the kid(s). Don't know if it would be more cost effective or not. So, what you are saying/advocating is that rather than mommy going back to work and putting junior in taxpayer funded daycare, that she be paid a salary by the same taxpayers, to stay at home and raise the child which her and daddy conceived! Nice work if ya can get it. Where do I sign up?
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Posts: 6584
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:03 pm
$1: So, what you are saying/advocating is that rather than mommy going back to work and putting junior in taxpayer funded daycare, that she be paid a salary by the same taxpayers, to stay at home and raise the child which her and daddy conceived! ![huh? [huh]](./images/smilies/icon_scratch.gif) Nice work if ya can get it. Where do I sign up? 100$/month is hardly a "salary". 3$+ per day !
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