[BartSimpson]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

America has produced prosperity without accountability and freedom.

The USA simply wouldn't be this powerful without slavery.

Drinking fermented maple syrup again?

[kenmore]

Actually govany, yes I did live during that era... I have worked for the liberals for many years as did my parents and my great grandfather worked to help Sir. Wilfred Laurier get elected. You can't deny history mister, as much as you would like to. The facts are the facts and Trudeau was one of our great PMs. following King, Laurier and M.Chrétien would be right up there with them.. You might want to study some political science and some history.. Trudeau did not want to " frenchify" anything as you call it. Do some research will ya!

[Lemmy]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

America has produced prosperity without accountability and freedom.

The USA simply wouldn't be this powerful without slavery.

Drinking fermented maple syrup again?

Maple Syrup can be fermented? Why was I not informed of this earlier?

[OldChum]

Where is Brian on the list

[gonavy47]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

gonavy47 gonavy47:

he brought in the metric system-by the way, our biggest trading partner still uses imperial measurements.

This is the only bone I'm going to pick here.

We, uh... We aren't the United States of America. In case I needed to remind you there.

Almost every single country on the planet uses the metric system. We aren't backword for progressing.

Just because America refuses to progress doesn't mean we can't.

I certainly don't need to be reminded who we are. When that idiot brought in the metric system, it was because he was trying to get rid of anything British in Canada. He didn't do it because of trade, or because most of the world uses metric(it doesn't). It was part of his agenda to do away with as much as he could of our coulture that was a reminder of who won at the Plains of Abraham. He even went so far as to mock the Queen, by doing pirouettes behind her in public. What a complete jerk.

[gonavy47]

kenmore kenmore:

Actually govany, yes I did live during that era... I have worked for the liberals for many years as did my parents and my great grandfather worked to help Sir. Wilfred Laurier get elected. You can't deny history mister, as much as you would like to. The facts are the facts and Trudeau was one of our great PMs. following King, Laurier and M.Chrétien would be right up there with them.. You might want to study some political science and some history.. Trudeau did not want to " frenchify" anything as you call it. Do some research will ya!

I've done research, and I've studied political science and history. Open your eyes and drop the rosey-red liberal glasses, and you might see that the man is reviled in this country. Check who his associates were in university. Start with his close pal, Rene Levesque! But I see from your symbols that Rene is probably one of your heroes too. To me he was a traitor to this country, as are all those who would rend this country apart. The facts are the facts no matter how you try to twist them. I would put Pearson ahead of any one of your choices, with the exception perhaps of Laurier. I also see that a few of my facts you didn't comment on,why is that I wonder.

[herbie]

gonavy47 gonavy47:

Canada's stature on the world stage was always weakened by the liberals policy of not having a strong and well-equiped military. We are still living this legacy, decades of under-funding and the long road back from that mistake
.

Are you fucking kidding?
We were respected for NOT being Washington's yappy fucking poodle.
You'd have to be retarded to keep a military at Cold War levels when it's fucking over, wouldn't you?

[Bodah]

Trudeau despised everthing American, English, he never said it but the truth were in his policies. He should of just packed his shit up and moved back to Europe.

A sheep in wolves clothing.

[EyeBrock]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

China has produced prosperity without accountability and freedom.

America has produced prosperity without accountability and freedom.

The USA simply wouldn't be this powerful without slavery.

Utter anti-US bullshit. Mr Canada, you need to throw off the shackles of anti-americanism. Only Liberals think that the measure of a Canadian patriot is how anti-american you are.

Back up your infantile statement with some facts. It would be a nice change.

[DerbyX]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

China has produced prosperity without accountability and freedom.

America has produced prosperity without accountability and freedom.

The USA simply wouldn't be this powerful without slavery.

Utter anti-US bullshit. Mr Canada, you need to throw off the shackles of anti-americanism. Only Liberals think that the measure of a Canadian patriot is how anti-american you are.

Back up your infantile statement with some facts. It would be a nice change.

I might say the same thing about your anti-Liberalism. Liberals don't measure Canadianism by anti-Americanism (we are the guys cheering on Obama).

Only a Conservative would say that.

[EyeBrock]

I'm not anti-Liberal derby, I just don't like the shower of shite that you guys have in at the moment. A few major changes and I might vote Liberal!

[DerbyX]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I'm not anti-Liberal derby, I just don't like the shower of shite that you guys have in at the moment. A few major changes and I might vote Liberal!

I guess I was mislead by this statement: Only Liberals think that the measure of a Canadian patriot is how anti-American you are.

Its the exact same sentiment you just attacked Mr C. with eye.

[HyperionTheEvil]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I'm not anti-Liberal derby, I just don't like the shower of shite that you guys have in at the moment. A few major changes and I might vote Liberal!

The only reason i voted conservative is that that CPC has been able to focus on economic issues while keep the religious nutbags at the back of the store. The day that changes is the day i switch my vote. If the conservaties think they are actually 'converting' people to the CPC party line they are mistaken. People are happy with a minority CPC governmetn and dont want them to form a majority.

When the liberals get thier shit together os when they will again get my vote

[EyeBrock]

DerbyX DerbyX:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I'm not anti-Liberal derby, I just don't like the shower of shite that you guys have in at the moment. A few major changes and I might vote Liberal!

I guess I was mislead by this statement: Only Liberals think that the measure of a Canadian patriot is how anti-American you are.

Its the exact same sentiment you just attacked Mr C. with eye.

Ok...you got me! How about 'some Liberals, dippers and Bloc'......that would be more accurate!

You are keeping me honest derby!

[ridenrain]

$1:

The 'soft power' myth
Lorne Gunter, National Post

In Paris on Monday, former prime minister Jean Chretien complained that Canada has "lost foreign stature" under the current Tory government.

This has become a familiar whine among Liberal frontbenchers this year: Canada was once a well-respected nation around the world, but is no longer thanks to the Tories' flouting of multilateral institutions such as the United Nations and its roaches' nest of subsidiary organizations.

Almost nothing could matter less to most Canadians than whether or not we are highly regarded at the World Food Organization or the Universal Postal Union.

I'll concede such things matter a great deal to Liberals. They fancy themselves masters of multinational co-operation. But that just shows how easily they are bought off by symbolism over substance and activity over achievement.

Mr. Chretien gave China and Africa as examples of places where the Tories have slipped internationally since taking office. "We unfortunately have disappeared from Africa and we've lost a lot of ground in China and I think that it is not good."

In his first three years as prime minister, Mr. Chretien claims, he met with the president of the People's Republic "eight or nine times" -- so often, he says, that a senior official told him Canada was China's best friend.

I'm not sure I would want to be the BFF of one of the world's most repressive regimes. What would being China's biggest buddy internationally oblige us to pretend never happened? The bloodbath in Tibet? Organ harvesting from prisoners of conscience? The widespread execution of dissidents?

Apart from a dip equal to the amount by which the worldwide economy has shrunk in the past year, Canada's trade with China has not declined a bit since the Tories stopped cozying up with the Communists, either. So it's not clear what we gained from all of Mr. Chretien's China-loving Team Canada visits.

Again, though, Liberals are mostly concerned about what their actions say about them and whether they impress international elites. That their behaviour has little or no effect on bilateral relations is secondary.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper is only just getting around now to going

to China, three years into his tenure, the same period in which Mr. Chretien insists he had eight or nine meetings with the Chinese president. But since our relations and trade with China have been little changed, there would seem to be no tangible loss from Mr. Harper's approach.

The Liberals believe their time in power was some Elysian paradise in which Canada "punched above its weight," in which we banded together with other middle-level and small powers to change the big boys' actions and better the world.

For years under Mr. Chretien, they peddled this notion of "soft power," in which Canada, Brazil, India, Australia, Italy and others would use their moral authority to exert influence over Russia, the United States and China and compel them to deal on war, arms, the environment and poverty.

But other than garnering lots of praise from the Red Cross, Greenpeace, UNESCO, etc. for being the kind of country all the others should aspire to be, the Liberals achieved little.

Perhaps the Tories have abandoned Africa. Still, has that had any real impact on Africans' lives?

Oh, right, I forgot. Thanks to the Liberals' focus on Africa, AIDS was contained -- or was that cured? -- hunger and disease were eliminated and the continent's least-developed countries had their foreign debt eliminated. So sad how all those bad things resurfaced only after the Tories replaced Mr. Chretien's party.

How could those mean, evil Conservatives have allowed that to happen?

The Liberals' relationship with our biggest trading partner and closest neighbour was characterized by an infantile anti-Americanism. They abandon missile defence at exactly the time the bad guys were developing bombs and acquiring missiles to launch them.

The Liberals loved, of course, to boast of their commitment to Kyoto -- which earned them much praise from media, enviro-activists and the UN -- but that climate treaty was useless. While it was signed by nearly 200 countries, it had emissions targets for under 40 nations -- and none of those has met meet its goals.

From stopping the genocide in Darfur to acting as an "honest broker" to settle the Sri Lankan civil war, the Libs said all the right things, but accomplished little except making themselves feel good and drawing praise from a lot of other armchair quarterbacks.