EyeBrock EyeBrock:
41,000 close enough? I think that's 'tens of thousands'.
http://www.thestar.com/article/422383Oh it's all gone quiet, all gone quiet, all gone quiet over there!
nope, just missed your post, our posts were 3 minutes apart. Good links and valid points about ENFORCING deportation orders, but those are not people who are "going through appeals" or "costing us thousands in welfare and healthcare". These people are OFF THE GRID. We dont know if they left the country or not, thats a different situation than those who are still on the grid and fighting deporation, which is what you were referring to. Those are people who were DENIED but as far as gov can tell have not been REMOVED. For sure, there are many who use the system to prolong their deportation through appeals, but I doubt these are in the "tens of thousands".
gonavy47 gonavy47:
And you have proof to your claim that they are just rounding up innocent people who haven't got the right forms filled out? I have a hard time believing that.
the original article of this thread makes that exact claim. This is about bureaucrats picking the "low hanging fruit". "Filling out the wrong form" is just an allegory to illustrate people who are caught in a technicality:
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Who is being deported
W-FIVE wanted to find out just who is getting deported. In St. John's Newfoundland, there has been a flurry of deportations and we went to see what kind of person is unfit to live in this country. Alexi Kolosov is one of those cases. He's a Russian fisherman who was stranded in St. John's nine years ago. A skilled net maker, he found work teaching young fisherman this lost art. He applied to stay in Canada and brought his son over. But just months ago, Immigration rejected his application.
Rather than leave, Alexi took sanctuary in the West End Baptist Church. It's a spartan existence, but Alexi now has four Canadian grandchildren. His son, already deported, started a family in Newfoundland. And the children depend on their grandfather for emotional and financial support.
Pastor Gordon Sutherland is the man who has given Alexi sanctuary. He recognizes he's breaking the law, but he says "there are times when we have to answer to a higher authority. And the policy or practice of sanctuary is one that goes back to the Old Testament."
Another person Immigration has ordered deported is Vladimir Ronenson. A carpenter by trade, his skills were in high demand in St. John's. The shop where he worked actually hired extra people to complete contracts brought in by Ronenson. He says his family moved to Canada to avoid religious persecution.
With a home and a mortgage and his son in his last year of high school, Immigration has rejected the Ronenson's refugee application and ordered them deported.
The cases in St. John's, a city that is trying to attract skilled immigrants, has some people up in arms. Weekly protests have been held and the local media have been running stories about how unfair these deportations are.
"Low hanging-fruit"
The situation in St. John's is not an isolated one. It's happening right across Canada. Nail the easy cases and virtually ignore the rotten apples. In fact, the whole Immigration system seems designed to allow criminals to play it like a fiddle. There are appeals, and there are appeals to the appeals. And if you know how the system works, you can stretch the process out for years.
When ordered out, many criminals just don't show up at the airport. Immigration has a task force to find them, but they're overworked and they may not know where you are. In the case of Gomez-Lopez, Immigration had an address for him that didn't even exist. And in the case of Sandra Gordon, W-FIVE found that the address Immigration had for her was a locked office near Toronto.
Richard Kurland is a well-known immigration lawyer in Vancouver. He says the system is set up to go after people who are easy to deport. "What's easier for you to do? Catch grandmothers or criminals?" says Kurland. "It's as simple as that. Do you want to finish your day at 5:30 or 1:00 in the afternoon? If you go after the grandmothers and the sisters, you're home early. If you want to go after the hardened criminals, you got to burn that midnight oil."
Quota system
Kurland's theory is backed up by an internal Immigration report obtained by W-FIVE that states: "...removal officers also reported that they are required to meet quotas ... the number of removals ... comes first, not the quality of the work they do."
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http://www.canadaka.net/link.php?id=50279As for the man who was removed from the IRB for having a poor track record, well the fact that he was removed shows that he was the exception, rather than the norm and that his practise was not desirable. Otherwise they would not have removed him.
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You showed yer arse BF. Stop apologising for the liars and cheats and do your homework when you rebutt my posts.
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