[xerxes]

Going back to the start....it's still a fair vid to make, not just for the reasons Derby has been beating RR over the head with. It's a great counterpoint to the one woman who did the ad slagging Canada's health care system.

And Brit's have done the same as well.

[Scape]

ridenrain ridenrain:

I really don't have a horse in the race but I'm just ticked that there's a number of Canadians telling the US what it should do.

They should stop fearmongering and spreading outright lies about our system then.

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Pseudonym is American so I want to hear what he has to say. He's got to live with it, not us.

And so do these people:

[ridenrain]

If I want, I can question Pseudonym or any American member but video tesitmonies are hardly proof, expecially when the Obama mafia has been proven to have a knack for plants.

[Akhenaten]

ridenrain ridenrain:

I just find it odd that Canadians are telling Americans what kind of health care they should have when we get all bent out of shape when they meddle in our affairs.

The rational is expressed in the story:

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If they want to use our system as a whipping boy in their own propaganda wars, it's mildly irritating," said Saskatoon health and policy researcher Steven Lewis in the video, titled Universal Health-Care Message to Americans From Canadian Doctors and Health Care Experts.

For years we have used the 'spector' of everything we see as wrong with the US system (or rather an exaggurration of that) to stifle debate on health care reform here. Likewise in the US those for health care reform or universal health care erroniously paint our system as some sort of shangra-la while those opposed paint our system like a Stalinist state-prison.

Somone here posted a thread about the Aussie hybrid system of both universal coverage and private options and the article posted made a pretty good argument why their systm is better. I wanted to post on it but had no time -- I just wanted to point out that the Aussies probably had the time and space to examine the issue on their own without the politics of a neighbor mucking it up.

The hybrid system -- multi-tiered system - whatever you want to call it is probably the best choice. But you can't talk about that here or whomever is in opposition will accuse you of attempting to 'Americanize' our system. Ridiculous. Just as ridiculous is what goes on in the US when the debate comes up. There's far too much exaggurration and misrepresentation all around to have a productive examination of our perspective systems.

Pseudonym Pseudonym :

One thing that tend to infuriate me about debates in general is how the use of facts and statistics are twisted so that nothing is really established.

^^ yeah. What he said.