[OldChum]

travior travior:

Still much better than the summer olympic uniforms. As long as "O Canada" is played lots, it doesn't bother me much what the uniform looks like

I agree it is really such a small point .

[BionicBunny]

What a load of bullocks.

The maple leaf is meant to represent all nationalities of Canada. This is more of a bad joke. Sure, let's tick off the Scottish, the British, the Ukranians, the Polish, etc by putting native art right smack in the middle of it all.

This isn't about Canadian pride. If that were true, they would have come up with something better. This smells more of the government trying to please the people most likely to start a little wee campfire in the middle of the street and call it "traditional hunting grounds".

[Tman1]

BionicBunny BionicBunny:

What a load of bullocks.

The maple leaf is meant to represent all nationalities of Canada. This is more of a bad joke. Sure, let's tick off the Scottish, the British, the Ukranians, the Polish, etc by putting native art right smack in the middle of it all.

This isn't about Canadian pride. If that were true, they would have come up with something better. This smells more of the government trying to please the people most likely to start a little wee campfire in the middle of the street and call it "traditional hunting grounds".

So basically everybody but aboriginals. Way to contradict yourself.

[maldonsfecht]

Tman1 Tman1:

BionicBunny BionicBunny:

What a load of bullocks.

The maple leaf is meant to represent all nationalities of Canada. This is more of a bad joke. Sure, let's tick off the Scottish, the British, the Ukranians, the Polish, etc by putting native art right smack in the middle of it all.

This isn't about Canadian pride. If that were true, they would have come up with something better. This smells more of the government trying to please the people most likely to start a little wee campfire in the middle of the street and call it "traditional hunting grounds".

So basically everybody but aboriginals. Way to contradict yourself.

wouldn't say that's contradictory...

the leaf is a great symbol BECAUSE it's been recognised as Canadian for many many years (it was a symbol for our soldiers long before it was on the national flag)

the stink of this new logo and what B-Bunny says here is that it's singled out this group and thrown them on top of the leaf... putting them ahead of other integral backgrounds in Canada... that's why.

As an English/Scottish Canadian, I have no desire to sport all-Native designs, rather universal Canadian ones... just as I am sure they would not feel any strong attachment to a logo full of Scottish designs... the leaf should be left alone.

it's in and of itself a beautiful design I believe, and could well suit a native team, but not the national team

the pacific-indian motif is great for the olympics in vancouver, so sport the design in the city... but it doesn't do much for this Nova Scotian and my national team... just as a logo with the nova scotian tartan and the peggy's cove lighthouse emblazoned on it would probably not get much of a thrill out of the German population in Ontario, or the Ukrainians in the prairies, etc

[BionicBunny]

Thank you Maldon for explaining it better than I did to Tman.

Aboriginal art is a part of Canada but it does not represent Canada. I hate being PC as much as the next person but I do believe we can at least remember that Aboriginals are not the only people populating this land. The government should leave the maple leaf alone or at least try a magic trick and pull something better out of that deep hat of theirs that says "Team Canada". This new design magically appeared but in my opinion it wasn't pulled out of their hat.

[Tman1]

maldonsfecht maldonsfecht:

the stink of this new logo and what B-Bunny says here is that it's singled out this group and thrown them on top of the leaf... putting them ahead of other integral backgrounds in Canada... that's why.

Umm how? You can hardly see it and there are other symbols other than aboriginal (French symbols and British) on it. Putting them ahead, where do you get that????

$1:

As an English/Scottish Canadian, I have no desire to sport all-Native designs, rather universal Canadian ones... just as I am sure they would not feel any strong attachment to a logo full of Scottish designs... the leaf should be left alone.

There isn't all native designs on it and all can see the big giant maple leaf on the front....and I don't care if you are Scottish/English/Ukrainian or whatever. It's a Canadian design yet it for some it isn't...Canadian...odd that.

You don't like the design fine but to say it sucks because there are a few 'native art designs' on it and not calling it Canadian is pretty dumb. You think you're more Canadian because you are...Scottish/English? Riiiight.

[Tman1]

BionicBunny BionicBunny:

Thank you Maldon for explaining it better than I did to Tman.

Aboriginal art is a part of Canada but it does not represent Canada. I hate being PC as much as the next person but I do believe we can at least remember that Aboriginals are not the only people populating this land. The government should leave the maple leaf alone or at least try a magic trick and pull something better out of that deep hat of theirs that says "Team Canada". This new design magically appeared but in my opinion it wasn't pulled out of their hat.

Actually he didn't explain it better, he more or less just repeated what you said in a more contradictory way.

Frankly, I don't know where this whole 'native art' thing came from but hey, they are a part of Canada and if you don't like it, tough. The Maple Leaf isn't the only symbol concerning Canada chump. When you make the statement of 'the maple leaf is meant to represent all nationalities of Canada' and then say you don't like it because it isn't as Canadian because it has a few native designs on it makes you look kind of 'not right in the head' right chump?

[OldChum]

Without the chump I agree it is going to be our team lets support it and cheer for it . After all they will be representing all of us .

[maldonsfecht]

Tman1 Tman1:

maldonsfecht maldonsfecht:

the stink of this new logo and what B-Bunny says here is that it's singled out this group and thrown them on top of the leaf... putting them ahead of other integral backgrounds in Canada... that's why.

Umm how? You can hardly see it and there are other symbols other than aboriginal (French symbols and British) on it. Putting them ahead, where do you get that????

$1:

As an English/Scottish Canadian, I have no desire to sport all-Native designs, rather universal Canadian ones... just as I am sure they would not feel any strong attachment to a logo full of Scottish designs... the leaf should be left alone.

There isn't all native designs on it and all can see the big giant maple leaf on the front....and I don't care if you are Scottish/English/Ukrainian or whatever. It's a Canadian design yet it for some it isn't...Canadian...odd that.

You don't like the design fine but to say it sucks because there are a few 'native art designs' on it and not calling it Canadian is pretty dumb. You think you're more Canadian because you are...Scottish/English? Riiiight.

Hold on there now, I never said the design sucks, in fact, look back at this:

$1:

it's in and of itself a beautiful design I believe, and could well suit a native team, but not the national team

the pacific-indian motif is great for the olympics in vancouver, so sport the design in the city... but it doesn't do much for this Nova Scotian and my national team...

The point being that yes, the Olympics are being held in Vancouver, so Pacific-Indian designs are great to represent the Olympics; however, having such region-specific imagery (in the design even if it includes symbols from French Canada as well) on a National Team jersey is where I think it would be better suited to have just the Leaf. It's not that the symbols aren't Canadian, it's that it's very specifically West-Coast Native in its design.

I never said anything about being more or less Canadian due to my heritage, so you can get off of that tack straight away. It's a question of highly regional-specific imagery for a National Team to which I object.

Cheers