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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:09 pm
 


Mukluk Mukluk:
The funniest part of this story for me is that I may just have to get a "DP" shirt with Layton's picture on it. That porn star moustache would finally have meaning.


You missed that joke yesterday.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:14 pm
 


No it wouldn't, it's still on Jack LOL. Would be a funny shirt tho [B-o]


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:24 pm
 


Mukluk Mukluk:
The funniest part of this story for me is that I may just have to get a "DP" shirt with Layton's picture on it. That porn star moustache would finally have meaning.



was that "DPshirt" or "DPshit" ;)


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The CCF was also an regional party; a farmers' issues party. It didn't really become a labour/socialist party until it became the NDP and went national, despite its leftist agenda.


Huh? Then what was the Regina Manifesto? It highlighted the CCF's desire to replace capitalism with socialism - sorry, the CCF was always a radical socialist party and it wasn't till Winnipeg Declaration (1956) that it actually became a more moderate democratic socialist party (and even then, the NDP was about 5 years away)


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:56 am
 


I might suggest that he call his party The "Canadian Democratic Party", that would avoid his party initials as DP, CDP looks a lot better.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:37 am
 


GreenTiger GreenTiger:
I might suggest that he call his party The "Canadian Democratic Party", that would avoid his party initials as DP, CDP looks a lot better.


Or DPC to add to the existing LPC and CPC. :D


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Lemmy Lemmy:
The CCF was also an regional party; a farmers' issues party. It didn't really become a labour/socialist party until it became the NDP and went national, despite its leftist agenda.


Huh? Then what was the Regina Manifesto? It highlighted the CCF's desire to replace capitalism with socialism - sorry, the CCF was always a radical socialist party and it wasn't till Winnipeg Declaration (1956) that it actually became a more moderate democratic socialist party (and even then, the NDP was about 5 years away)


Of course, it was always radically socialist. But, as with most radical parties, it began as a grassroots swell, in the CCF's case, that swell was among farmers. Its first incarnation as the CCF was the marriage of a loose amalgamation (sometimes called the Ginger Group) of a number of even more radical and more regional farmers' parties (the United Farmers among others). The depression's effect on Western farmers was the seed (sorry, bad pun :lol:). And, as you note, when politcal parties grow, they, naturally, moderate. My original point was that the NDP today seems a lot more like the old CCF; a rag-tag loose conglomeration of not-necessarily like-minded folks rather than the moderate socialist party it became under Douglas and Broadbent.

The Regina Manifesto was the first step to growing the party, as it welcomed industrial workers into this farmers' party under Marxian principles. That, of course, was a necessary step to move the party beyond its rural/regional beginnings.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:36 am
 


Why the NDP might want to rethink that new name:
Proposed initials spell big trouble with French voters


OTTAWA–A proposed name change to make the storied New Democratic Party of Canada appear dynamic and modern looks certain to get lost in translation.

Just ask François Bayrou.

The French politician changed his party's name in 2007 to the Democratic Party – the very name being proposed by some NDP members – and then very quickly changed it again to "Democratic Movement."

The reason? According to some observers, it was because the initials of the party name in French ("Parti démocrate") sounded like "pédé," an offensive term for gays that is short for "pédéraste."

"It's probably not an acronym you want to use for your party," said David Soberman, professor of marketing at the University of Toronto's Rotman School of Management.

Tinkering with a party brand can carry risks, Soberman said. It evokes memories of another political rebranding misstep – CCRAP (the Canadian Conservative Reform Alliance party), which lasted about 48 hours in 2000 before a quick fix ended the snickering....

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/677036


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:39 am
 


They could call themselves the LDP- Lame Duck Party


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PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
They could call themselves the LDP- Lame Duck Party


I don't think you understand the term "lame duck".


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:50 am
 


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Why the NDP might want to rethink that new name:
Proposed initials spell big trouble with French voters


http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/677036


You beat me to it. :D


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:03 am
 


I think they would be better off to keep the "New" in the name and drop Layton instead. It would make more sense in my opinion.


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Lemmy Lemmy:
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
They could call themselves the LDP- Lame Duck Party


I don't think you understand the term "lame duck".


In the context I used it I do, cuz they never gonna fly.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:28 am
 


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"Democratic Party, nothing wrong with that but they pick up every thing that happens in the States with that. Right now, that's good but it isn't always good. It wasn't great when Jimmy Carter was the president," said pollster Greg Lyle, of Innovative Research in an interview with The Hill Times.

http://www.thehilltimes.ca/html/index.p ... hange/&c=2


There is your problem. These guys see Mr O and get starry eyed. What happens if things in Afghanistan get even worse and the health care plan isn't passed and the economy takes a long time to recover?

The "Democratic Party of Canada" name might not sell as well.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:48 pm
 


Interview with Judy Rebick about the NDP and it's current state of affairs.



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