[sandorski]

KorbenDeck KorbenDeck:

sandorski sandorski:

Idiotic again. You go to great length to minimize Christian nuttiness, then turn around and apply isolated Muslim nuttiness to all. Fail.

How many Christians go around burning buildings when a carton of Jesus, God, or the Pope are published? How many times does the religious body order hits on people? How many Christian kill their relatives who covert from Christianity. How many Christians says "I have no problem killing you because you do not believe in my God"? How many Christians behead non-Christians in the name of their God? How many Christians yell "God is great" then blow themselves up? How many Christians blow up buses, cars, trains, subways, or fly planes into buildings in the name of God? How many Christians stone/beat/punish women for being raped, in public without a male of their family, showing flesh, or going to school? How often do Christians hold large rallies in support of killing someone?

What I describe is by no means isolated, you should do some research on Islam before you decide to call someone idiotic.

Also I will point out the subject is not Christians (Christianity), it is Muslims (Islam).

How many Muslims burn down Abortion Clinics? How many Muslims shoot Doctors? yadda yadda ya

[KorbenDeck]

$1:

How many Muslims burn down Abortion Clinics? How many Muslims shoot Doctors? yadda yadda ya

Abortion Clinics? No idea, don't even think they are legal in Islamic countries could be wrong about that one, I have never looked up those stats. They shoot lots of doctors, women doctors especially

[ridenrain]

Just thinking about the stats, I'd guess that twice as many muslim woman die because of honor killing than abortion doctors killed by christians.



Here ya go Sandorski.. they'll be closer for you to grab.

[KorbenDeck]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Just thinking about the stats, I'd guess that twice as many muslim woman die because of honor killing than abortion doctors killed by christians.

Way off, I looked it up. Here are some numbers and facts

According to statistics gathered by the National Abortion Federation (NAF), an organization of abortion providers, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, and 3 kidnappings committed against abortion providers. In the U.S., violence directed toward abortion providers has killed at least nine people, including five doctors, two clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort. Plus 8 other incidences of violence/attempted murder recorded world wide.
http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/assets/ ... olence.pdf
http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm
http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion ... lence.html

A June 2008 Report by the Turkish Prime Ministry's Human Rights Directorate, says that in Istanbul alone, there is one honour killing every week; and reports over 1,000 during the last 5 years. It adds that metropolitan cities are the location of many of these
http://womenagainstshariah.blogspot.com ... chive.html

UNICEF reported that in the Gaza strip and the West bank that "According to 1999 estimates, more than two-thirds of all murders were most likely 'honour' killings."
http://www.unicef.org/newsline/00pr17.htm

The is on average 12 honor killings a year in the UK. The Turkish women's organization Papatya has documented 40 instances of honor killings in Germany since 1996. Precise statistics on how many women die every year in such honor killings are hard to come by, as many crimes are never reported.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/honourcrime ... ur_2.shtml
http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1 ... 74,00.html

Total incidents related to anti-abortion 573 since 1977. Total number of honour killings in Istabul alone in less than 3 years out numbers 3 decades of recorder anti-abortion incidents. In less than 2 and half months there are more honour killings in ONE city than there are documented anti-abortion killings.

[ridenrain]

I was just thinking of examples in the western world not world wide so that would make a huge difference. Still.. great digging and a good post.

[martin14]

Proculation Proculation:

Oh and he also said that the infidels should die but that since I'm a good guy to accept him in my house, he won't kill me. That quite scared me. Maybe it was a joke tho.

First you get the 'convert or die' approach


No, it'll be ok, as long as you pay your special infidel tax,
and realize that you are lower on the scale than any Muslim.

So, after paying your extra taxes, when you give offense to a Muslim
(like breathing), then you will hauled into the street and killed.

ask your friend about jizya


oh and Korben, Sandorski will never actually
answer your question with any kind of intelligent answer.

He doesnt do that

[sandorski]

KorbenDeck KorbenDeck:

$1:

How many Muslims burn down Abortion Clinics? How many Muslims shoot Doctors? yadda yadda ya

Abortion Clinics? No idea, don't even think they are legal in Islamic countries could be wrong about that one, I have never looked up those stats. They shoot lots of doctors, women doctors especially

So much Fail. You Prove my point by making a list of Isolated Incidents and applying it Generally.

[sandorski]

martin14 martin14:

Proculation Proculation:

Oh and he also said that the infidels should die but that since I'm a good guy to accept him in my house, he won't kill me. That quite scared me. Maybe it was a joke tho.

First you get the 'convert or die' approach


No, it'll be ok, as long as you pay your special infidel tax,
and realize that you are lower on the scale than any Muslim.

So, after paying your extra taxes, when you give offense to a Muslim
(like breathing), then you will hauled into the street and killed.

ask your friend about jizya


oh and Korben, Sandorski will never actually
answer your question with any kind of intelligent answer.

He doesnt do that

My answer was Intelligent. His questions/statements are not.

[kenmore]

Gunnair... ask any Muslim what their mandate is and if they are truthful, they will tell you it is to convert infidels.. I work with several and a lot of other ethnic groups.. They have an agenda.. don't kid yourself..

[KorbenDeck]

martin14 martin14:

Proculation Proculation:

Oh and he also said that the infidels should die but that since I'm a good guy to accept him in my house, he won't kill me. That quite scared me. Maybe it was a joke tho.

First you get the 'convert or die' approach


No, it'll be ok, as long as you pay your special infidel tax,
and realize that you are lower on the scale than any Muslim.

So, after paying your extra taxes, when you give offense to a Muslim
(like breathing), then you will hauled into the street and killed.

ask your friend about jizya


oh and Korben, Sandorski will never actually
answer your question with any kind of intelligent answer.

He doesnt do that

Yea I notice that now

[KorbenDeck]

ridenrain ridenrain:

I was just thinking of examples in the western world not world wide so that would make a huge difference. Still.. great digging and a good post.

Well Turkey counts a Western.

Problem with getting stats in the west is that most governments are afraid to admit there is a problem because of the backlash they always face from that group in question.

[sandorski]

KorbenDeck KorbenDeck:

martin14 martin14:

Proculation Proculation:

Oh and he also said that the infidels should die but that since I'm a good guy to accept him in my house, he won't kill me. That quite scared me. Maybe it was a joke tho.

First you get the 'convert or die' approach


No, it'll be ok, as long as you pay your special infidel tax,
and realize that you are lower on the scale than any Muslim.

So, after paying your extra taxes, when you give offense to a Muslim
(like breathing), then you will hauled into the street and killed.

ask your friend about jizya


oh and Korben, Sandorski will never actually
answer your question with any kind of intelligent answer.

He doesnt do that

Yea I notice that now

I'm sorry for not buying into your Fascist BS.

[Proculation]

Do you really at least know what fascism mean ?

[sandorski]

Proculation Proculation:

Do you really at least know what fascism mean ?

Yes, I do.

[ShepherdsDog]

No, obviously you don't by the way you've used it.