[RUEZ]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

"Hardly has antyhing to do with Iggy?" What is the title of this thread? And the first page of posts is primarily criticism of Iggy for suggesting that Canadians at the embassy might be able to help the wounded. Thus my comment that the political hacks on here will even align themselves with scumbags like Ahmaninejad as long as they can score a couple of points on Iggy.

I looked over the first page agian up to your comments. Two people criticized Iggy. Ridenrain of course and Rock called someone an idiot, i'm assuming it was Iggy. Yes, I can see why you would make the comment that:

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Hey, well it's nice to see all the conservatvies here supporting their brethren in Iran like Ahmadinejad.

[Zipperfish]

Oh, more than two methinks. But, I think the important thing to remember is that I'm right and you're wrong. As usual.

[RUEZ]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Oh, more than two methinks. But, I think the important thing to remember is that I'm right and you're wrong. As usual.

If that helps you get through the day.

[Zipperfish]

RUEZ RUEZ:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Oh, more than two methinks. But, I think the important thing to remember is that I'm right and you're wrong. As usual.

If that helps you get through the day.

That and a mickey before noon, yup.

[Zipperfish]

Scape Scape:

SPEAK OUT FOR IRAN AND ITS DEMOCRACY By John McCain

You got that wrong. If it's the John McCain who recently ran for the President in the US, that would be: BOMB BOMB IRAN by John McCain.

[Alta_redneck]

Every time I see a new Tweet, it makes me think of this story for some reason.

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When contemplating war, beware of babies in incubators

by Tom Regan | csmonitor.com

More than 10 years later, I can still recall my brother Sean's face. It was bright red. Furious. Not one given to fits of temper, Sean was in an uproar. He was a father, and he had just heard that Iraqi soldiers had taken scores of babies out of incubators in Kuwait City and left them to die. The Iraqis had shipped the incubators back to Baghdad. A pacifist by nature, my brother was not in a peaceful mood that day. "We've got to go and get Saddam Hussein. Now," he said passionately.

I completely understood his feelings. Although I had no family of my own then, who could countenance such brutality? The news of the slaughter had come at a key moment in the deliberations about whether the US would invade Iraq. Those who watched the non-stop debates on TV saw that many of those who had previously wavered on the issue had been turned into warriors by this shocking incident.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0906/p25s02-cogn.html

[Choban]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Thanos Thanos:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Yes I have a feeling that there's a lot of ideological drivel being thrown about. Personlly if someone banged on my door asking for medical help, I'd give it. That's a far cry from Canada taking an activist stance in the outcome of what's going on in Iran.

Yeah, that's the heartstrings argument, but the difference between your definition of legitimate help and what the Iranian dictatorship regards as legitimate help is probably light years apart. Canada's been on Iran's shit-list ever since Ken Taylor smuggled those American embassy staffers out of Tehran back in 1979. They tortured and murdered an Iranian-Canadian journalist a couple of years back and basically laughed in our faces about it when we protested diplomatically. Their current president made his career in the paramilitaries by being involved directly in the invasion and hostage-taking at the United States embassy. Given all this our wisest course of action would have been to maintain the absolutely strictest neutrality possible, even if it meant locking the embassy doors to all Iranian civilians, even injured protestors, during the current unrest.

A hard decison, yes, but the safety of our diplomatic personnel in a place that has the rotten history of revolutionary Islamist Iran should have been the highest priority. Not the last priority, as Michael Ignatieff apparently believes. I'd rather have to endure another round of our enlightened opposition and political media calling Stephen Harper heartless instead of having to hear them cackle and blame him for a potential hostage crisis involving Canadians that no government could do anything at all to solve.

I agree our response should be measured. It could well be that whats-iz-nuts actually did win the election. A thought many haven't considered, I'm sure. And they've killed--what?--two dozen so far. Probably a few hundred more at the mercies of various zealous interragtors in the Ministry of the Interior. Nasty, but par for the course for most countries, especially out that way. Still, I think we should take in a few injured and refrain from political histrionics. That strikes me as a measured response.

Harper's response will be typically ideological and unimaginative. Probably he'll parrot whatever the US and Israel say, as is his norm for foreign affairs.

I'd have to agree with Thanos on this one, even a measured response would be seen as meddling by Iranian authorities and only serve to give them more rhetorical ammo to use against the western world. Let's not forget that this is a democracy founded through revolution.
I will mention as well that these people wouldn't be injured and requiring aid right now if they weren't activly protesting in a country thats as bad as China for locking up dissidents and nay-sayers.