[Yogi]

I would certainly be for cyclists being required to take an approved riding/safety/traffic law course and as well to have to pay for and permanently display a licence plate. Of course the 'registered owner' could always 'claim' that 'someone else was riding it' or 'it was stolen' but as a 'vehicle' it would be governed by the same laws as motor vehicles and just like when a photo radar ticket is issued to the registered owner as 'the responsible party' so to would the registered owner of the bicycle be held accountable!

[Lemmy]

Yogi Yogi:

I would certainly be for cyclists being required to take an approved riding/safety/traffic law course and as well to have to pay for and permanently display a licence plate. Of course the 'registered owner' could always 'claim' that 'someone else was riding it' or 'it was stolen' but as a 'vehicle' it would be governed by the same laws as motor vehicles and just like when a photo radar ticket is issued to the registered owner as 'the responsible party' so to would the registered owner of the bicycle be held accountable!

If there were enough bicycle offences that it represented a revenue stream, there'd already be such a system in place. The very fact bicycles aren't licensed tells a great deal about the severity of problems they cause.

[dino_bobba_renno]

Yogi Yogi:

I would certainly be for cyclists being required to take an approved riding/safety/traffic law course and as well to have to pay for and permanently display a licence plate. Of course the 'registered owner' could always 'claim' that 'someone else was riding it' or 'it was stolen' but as a 'vehicle' it would be governed by the same laws as motor vehicles and just like when a photo radar ticket is issued to the registered owner as 'the responsible party' so to would the registered owner of the bicycle be held accountable!

You know that's not a bad idea. I can of course see insurance coming into the picture shortly there after but it would definitely be something to consider. Now all have to do is convince the cyclists of that

[dino_bobba_renno]

Lemmy Lemmy:

Yogi Yogi:

I would certainly be for cyclists being required to take an approved riding/safety/traffic law course and as well to have to pay for and permanently display a licence plate. Of course the 'registered owner' could always 'claim' that 'someone else was riding it' or 'it was stolen' but as a 'vehicle' it would be governed by the same laws as motor vehicles and just like when a photo radar ticket is issued to the registered owner as 'the responsible party' so to would the registered owner of the bicycle be held accountable!

If there were enough bicycle offences that it represented a revenue stream, there'd already be such a system in place. The very fact bicycles aren't licensed tells a great deal about the severity of problems they cause.

Never underestimate a regulator and there desire to make money Give it time, I'd bet a dollar to a doughnut that something like that is coming down the pipe in the near future.

[Yogi]

I really think that such a situation will soon happen. NOT because of the revenue, or lack thereof generated, the program would be self supporting @ about $30.00 per, rather it SHOULD be measured in injuries and deaths.

[Brenda]

Good idea! a 6 year old take a road test before he will be taken to school by bike by his mom! Brilliant!

Sometimes, you can do without governing...

[Yogi]

Brenda Brenda:

Good idea! a 6 year old take a road test before he will be taken to school by bike by his mom! Brilliant!

Sometimes, you can do without governing...

NO! I thought 'we' were talking about bicycle riders sharing roadways with vehicles which on the average weigh in at 3000 lb. How could anyone possibly find fault with the requirement of safety course before people are turned loose on any thoroughfare?

[Lemmy]

Yogi Yogi:

NO! I thought 'we' were talking about bicycle riders sharing roadways with vehicles which on the average weigh in at 3000 lb. How could anyone possibly find fault with the requirement of safety course before people are turned loose on any thoroughfare?

Cost-benefit. If the costs exceed the benefits, it's not a program we should consider.

[Yogi]

Cost benefit! How much is a human beings life worth???
There's your 'cost benefit'!

[Lemmy]

so I and every other cyclist should have to pay for a license because someone might get killed on a bike?

[Brenda]

Yogi Yogi:

Brenda Brenda:

Good idea! a 6 year old take a road test before he will be taken to school by bike by his mom! Brilliant!

Sometimes, you can do without governing...

NO! I thought 'we' were talking about bicycle riders sharing roadways with vehicles which on the average weigh in at 3000 lb. How could anyone possibly find fault with the requirement of safety course before people are turned loose on any thoroughfare?

Why would a cyclist need to take a roadtest? Why can't motorists just pay attention? Why not make bike lanes that actually work, and NOT along a stretch of highway where you can go 110...

Jesus people, the world is larger than just North America, why do you guys want to invent the wheel again??

[Brenda]

Yogi Yogi:

Cost benefit! How much is a human beings life worth???
There's your 'cost benefit'!

If you are too scared to bicycle, then don't. You can't prevent accidents from happening. You can get killed by falling off a sidewalk.

[Yogi]

Lemmy Lemmy:

so I and every other cyclist should have to pay for a license because someone might get killed on a bike?

Ummm....YES! Same as I pay to register my vehicle to help pay for roadways your registration fees could go towards the same ( and bike lanes). And as well I pay vehicle insurance to cover damages/injuries that I might cause with my vehicle.

Seems that cyclists 'want' but 'want' everyone else to pay for it!

[Yogi]

Brenda Brenda:

Yogi Yogi:

Brenda Brenda:

Good idea! a 6 year old take a road test before he will be taken to school by bike by his mom! Brilliant!

Sometimes, you can do without governing...

NO! I thought 'we' were talking about bicycle riders sharing roadways with vehicles which on the average weigh in at 3000 lb. How could anyone possibly find fault with the requirement of safety course before people are turned loose on any thoroughfare?

Why would a cyclist need to take a roadtest? Why can't motorists just pay attention? Why not make bike lanes that actually work, and NOT along a stretch of highway where you can go 110...

Jesus people, the world is larger than just North America, why do you guys want to invent the wheel again??

Think about this. Bike lanes could only be practically figured into new roadways. I'm not against the idea myself.

To put in a bike lane on an existing road would require either taking that space from an existing vehicle lane, thereby doing away with a lane for motor vehicles and likely creating severe traffic problems, or to expropriate four or five feet from peoples yards or business frontages. Are you OK with 'giving up' part of your front yard for a bike lane?

And why would you not think it a good idea to teach a 65 lb child, on a twenty pound bicycle, how to safely share the roadway with a 25,000lb bus?

[Brenda]

Of course you teach your kids how to ride a bike before you go on the road with them.I don't think it should be a government thing. I also think you should separate bikelanes from traffic.

You can't take it from an existing lane, because they are a legal width. But, when you reconstruct or build new, you can put it in. In the town here, there will be no problem taking a bit off the street and make bike lanes. In the next town, you could create parkings instead of on street parking, and turn the on street parking spots into bike lanes. Next to the highways, you can build new lanes, so the cyclists don't have to bike ON the shoulder of the highway anymore.

Really, it is not that hard, it takes a little planning, and, imo, every city or town is constantly in planning.

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