[SigPig]

RUEZ RUEZ:

Sure there can be a place for today's crop of electrics. But anyone that's trying to sell them as the answer to our problems is out to lunch. If you're not doing that I apologize.

Fair enough. Maybe one day they will be able to replace our current vehicles but that isn't now thats for sure. But I definitely enjoyed the discussion.

[DrCaleb]

RUEZ RUEZ:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

If someone were concerned, they could build themselves a small wind generator to charge it. You can't build yourself a small gas refinery. But hpefully soon we'll have a decent sized nuke to recharge if from!

Easy enough to say, but harder to do. Where I live it's illegal to have a wind turbine on a lot less than 5 acres. You could try solar but that's hit or miss. The times you really want to charge your car is at night and well I don't have to explain to you how solar power works. Not to mention the added costs.

What? Why can't you recharge via solar over night?

Like I said, if someone cared enough . . .they would move somewhere that allowed them wind energy.

Windmills aren't only the propeller type anymore either. The newest are tall tubes, and rotate horizontally rather than on the vertical. Better for urban areas. More accepted by the NIMBY crowd.

[tritium]

bootlegga bootlegga:

tritium tritium:

This is what I want to buy. World's First Drivable Fuel Cell Hybrid-electric Plug-in Vehicle by Ford.

Featured in QUANTUM OF SOLACE, if anyone paid attention to the car over Olga Kurylenko.

The worst Bond movie ever...

No, I'll say this for the Bond series, Sean Connery was the best Bond ever, but the new Bond Daniel Craig is a great new bond.

Bond Girl Olga Kurylenko drives first Ford Ka (Hydrogen car); UK Ka prices start at £7,995

[Dannymad]

coaster_dot coaster_dot:

Well I would spend about $75 of gas a week last summer for work and school. So it was about $300 a month or $3,000 a year. Figure that over 10 years which is $30,000...and I'm sure the electric car would last at least 10 years.

...actually if you really look at it, yeah its not worth it

Besides, you would feel like you would get screwed if you bought one then a year later the price went down.

At least ten years? From what I've heard electric cars need far less maintenance then a normal car, so you're probably looking at a car that can last you some 20 years or more even. I could be wrong though, the information I got about electric cars came all from the internet and documentaries like "Who killed the electric car?". The main problem about electric cars really is the longevity of the batteries and abundance of recharging spots.

[ziggy]

Now instead of seeing someone walking down the highway with a gas can you will see them packing a battery.

The article says all the electricity comes from in Canada and is renewable,its not.
Weve allready had brownouts from electrical demand.

Now those electric scooters on the other hand....that would be the franchise to buy right now.

[Robair]

Paint the cars with this stuff, and drive forever.

[Chumley]

ziggy ziggy:

Now instead of seeing someone walking down the highway with a gas can you will see them packing a battery.

I thought of that concerning filling stations. If you are on a long trip, other than having to stop for however long it would take to charge up, a station would have to have a large supply of precharged batteries. It would suck if you got a bad one and halfway to nowhere it dies on you.

I wonder how hard it would be to siphon electricity of someone else's vehicle in the middle of the night?

[Robair]

ziggy ziggy:

Now instead of seeing someone walking down the highway with a gas can you will see them packing a battery.

The article says all the electricity comes from in Canada and is renewable,its not.

$1:

Of interest, only Canada and Norway create the majority of their electricity via renewable resources, such as run-of-river small hydro, wind, biomass, geothermal and solar energy. According to Tesla, recharging the current Roadster from the current Canadian grid would reduce greenhouse gas emissions by approximately 85-percent, on average, when compared to the emissions of an equivalent gasoline-powered vehicle. In British Columbia, Manitoba and Quebec, where hydro-generated electricity is dominant, the reduction would be up to 98-percent.

Welllll... close. The article says the majority. I don't know if that's correct or not, don't have enough intrest to go look it up to tell the truth...

[RUEZ]

Robair Robair:

Welllll... close. The article says the majority. I don't know if that's correct or not, don't have enough intrest to go look it up to tell the truth...

http://strategy.sauder.ubc.ca/antweiler/edutainment/electricity.pdf

[ziggy]

I posted the blurb from a green website back where I screwed up the quote thing,should have posted the link but they say different.
I imagine the extra fuel or gas that is saved could be used for bigger electrical plants to keep the supply up for the extra demand of juice that will be required.

[Robair]

RUEZ RUEZ:

Robair Robair:

Welllll... close. The article says the majority. I don't know if that's correct or not, don't have enough intrest to go look it up to tell the truth...

http://strategy.sauder.ubc.ca/antweiler/edutainment/electricity.pdf

So Hydro is damn near 70% if I'm reading that correctly... ?

[ziggy]

Heres the site,it could be a bit biased.

http://www.plugintogreencanada.com/content/Renewable_Energy/167

[RUEZ]

Robair Robair:

RUEZ RUEZ:

Robair Robair:

Welllll... close. The article says the majority. I don't know if that's correct or not, don't have enough intrest to go look it up to tell the truth...

http://strategy.sauder.ubc.ca/antweiler/edutainment/electricity.pdf

So Hydro is damn near 70% if I'm reading that correctly... ?

I think the second graph show's hydro generation at just over 60%.

[ziggy]

Hmmmmmm

$1:

Far from being "green," many hydroelectric power plants release more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than large coal-fired power stations. This is because of the rotting vegetation in the reservoir. According to World Commission on Dams, a group of scientists, engineers and environmentalists supported by the World Bank, the world's biggest financier of large dams.

[RUEZ]

ziggy ziggy:

Heres the site,it could be a bit biased.

http://www.plugintogreencanada.com/content/Renewable_Energy/167

Wow, don't they consider hydro generation as renewable?