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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:11 am
RUEZ RUEZ: That's not really an appropriate way to punish these boys. Two wrongs don't make a right. 
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:17 am
Robair Robair: I think that father showed incredible restraint. Pretty sure I would have beat the crap out of them.
Two 16 year olds? Those aren't boys, they are young men and your 5 year old daughter?
Can't imagine. I likely would have lost it. I would have lost it as well, but I would not have drank with the Father before hand. A daycare worker assualted my son in this way when he was 4. When he disclosed, I asked a neighbour to watch the kids and to phone the police...as I didnt know what I was going to do but I was raging. When the police arrived at the Daycare, I had kicked the door in and had the woman up against the wall choking her out. Charges were laid but later dropped against me. I know if the police hadnt have showed I would have murdered her because that was my intent at the time. But what good are you to the kids sitting in prison?....it was a stupid move on my part.
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:25 pm
I'd have shot them, right then and there.
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:31 pm
I think I would have shot them too...
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:35 pm
I'd have a very hard time not strangling the life out of these guys if they ever did that to my daughter...
Although, people really shouldn' take the law into their own hands, as much as I would've loved to should such a circumstance occur... >_<
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:10 pm
Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace: I'd have a very hard time not strangling the life out of these guys if they ever did that to my daughter...
Although, people really shouldn' take the law into their own hands, as much as I would've loved to should such a circumstance occur... >_< If the courts ever started passing out sentences that reflect the severity of the crime there would be no need for "vigilante" justice. I personally think 2 shots and a deep hole would be appropriate for these two if it was my daughter! There are ways to hide the bodies.
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:42 pm
TattoodGirl TattoodGirl: They could have been tried as adults and then put on the mandatory Sex Offender Registration.
Without that and intensive treatment, which IMO doesnt work for S.O. but at least can learn coping skills to control the desire, then they will continue to offend and escalate. Cant scare it out of them. They don't have to be "tried as adults." Young offenders can be put on the sex offender registry as well. They should have been charged for what they did, but it's unclear if they were. Maybe the father decided putting his 6 year old through a trial was too much so nothing happened in that respect. Sad. Hardest part in these cases is getting a child victim to testify about what happened. Only justice these kids will ever face is what this Dad did. Any father would understand his actions, even if they were technically illegal. It's amazing he didn't shoot the little SOBs.
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:55 pm
Choban Choban: I'd have shot them, right then and there. Yes a much better idea. You end up in jail, your daughter loses her father for a long while. Not to mention the guilt she will feel for thinking it's her fault. A much better plan.
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:44 am
RUEZ RUEZ: Brenda Brenda: wildrosegirl wildrosegirl: :lol:
Nah. Just a little pre-trial warm up.
The court should still issue the final jail term. What trial. It's settled as far as I am concerned for the father. The kid won't get jail, cuz he is too young. He better have learned his damned lesson now. 16 isn't too young for jail. No but it's covered under the Young Offenders Act.
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:49 am
Mowich Mowich: So this is what Canada has come too, people cheering on vigilanty justice, and drunken justice at that. Guess the father needed the booze to kick his sense of 'morality' into place. What a frightening story. I have kids and would do alot worse if it were me, I don't condone vigilantism in any other case, but sexualt molestation on a child, hell yah on this one
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:06 am
RUEZ RUEZ: Choban Choban: I'd have shot them, right then and there. Yes a much better idea. You end up in jail, your daughter loses her father for a long while. Not to mention the guilt she will feel for thinking it's her fault. A much better plan. I'm not debating the intelligence of retribution, I know how my mind works and in a situation such as this I would kill, I have no doubt about it, Plus I'd rather be in prison than have 2 young sex offenders free to continue this kind of shit for the rest of their lives. Has anyone in this country ever heard of a rehabilitated sex offender??? I'm guessing not, take it a step further and look at the records of almost everyone on the sex offender list and you will see constant reapeat offenders, better to kill the little F%^$ers than to let them do 1-2 years and just do it again and again and again when they get out! What's a murder wrap these days??? Even if this father killed them he'd be out in less than 5 years I'm betting, well worth it to me. Every time you read about a pedophile in the papers you will see that they served time already for the same things, and it always started with taking advantage of a position of trust My wife's Grandfather beat a guy to death in the 60's, this man was in the process of raping a 16 year old girl when my wife's Grandfather happened across the scene. He did 2 years for manslaughter and didn't regret a day. He's a hero to me to that girl to her parents and to the community he lived in after.
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:42 am
lily lily: $1: My wife's Grandfather beat a guy to death in the 60's, this man was in the process of raping a 16 year old girl when my wife's Grandfather happened across the scene
That's a completely different situation than the one we're discussing. And before you fly off the handle in a testosterone-fueled rage, maybe ask your daughter what she'd like you to do, and if she thinks losing you for 5 or so years is worth it. I don't see it as being too different, sure there are differences, but the similarities include a minor, a predator, and someone who was willing to do something about the situation other than call the cops It also has nothing to do with testosterone, I've heard plenty of women remark "If that was my kid I'd kill Him/Them" in regards to pedophiles I would call it Parental Rage if nothing else. Again, I'm not debating the right/wrong of what happened, I'm just saying I know how I would react is all. I should metion that a very good friend of mine had this happen to her daughter, the man was the husband of the girl's cousin and is only alive today because he ran away from everyone after this little girl came forward, and after the cops were called and all was said and done this creep did NO TIME for sexual touching. He got handed a suspended sentence, the only jail he saw was during trial and he was supposed to attend counciling which he never did, now he lives in the Youkon and has sexually touched 2 other young girls that I've heard of and still is NOT in prison, apparently due to lack of viable witnesses. So why use/trust a system that does nothing but recycle which group of pedophiles we all have to hear about every 5 years.
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:58 am
In reality, unless you've been in this situation before, you don't know how you'd react. Those who say they do, think they do, but they don't.
I'm pretty sure that I'd confront the person who did it and he may get a kick in the groin or a good beating, but I don't know, unless someone stopped me I may even kill... and I'm not a violent guy.
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:19 pm
raydan raydan: In reality, unless you've been in this situation before, you don't know how you'd react. Those who say they do, think they do, but they don't.
Nicely said, I would further add that unless you are a parent you truly wouldn't appreciate the lengths we would go to protecting our kids.
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:24 pm
2Cdo 2Cdo: raydan raydan: In reality, unless you've been in this situation before, you don't know how you'd react. Those who say they do, think they do, but they don't.
Nicely said, I would further add that unless you are a parent you truly wouldn't appreciate the lengths we would go to protecting our kids. Well said to both of you ![Beers [BB]](./images/smilies/beers.gif)
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