[bootlegga]

That's what I thought, not man enough to admit when you're wrong...

[ridenrain]

Desperate grab. What about the CBC thread?
Was I wrong, along with all the vets there also?

Excluding my one sentance, it looks like everyone else see's the crap the CBC is pushing except you.

One more time, for old time sakes....

[fifeboy]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Apparently, both of you missed the CBC is AWOL in Afghanistan thread.

current-events-f59/cbc-awol-in-afghanistan-t72488.html

The CBC started reporting about Afghanistan only when the CPC took over and only when a Canadian dies.

Ahh....ride buddy, there were only 10 posts, three were by you. I have no respect for your opinions on the CBC because you are a knee jerk hack anytime the subject comes up. The others, I will respect their opinions, despite not agreeing with some of them. Mtbr, well, he is just mtbr and most of what he says is just laughable.

[ridenrain]

I'm sorry to be brutally honest, Fifeboy, but I have a higher opinion of Boot that I do of you.
(snap?)

While I can agree that one sentance was on a limb, I've shown a great many other people who are far more qualified who hold the same opinion reguarding the CBC's coverage.
I'll discard that sentance but I want Boot to either admit that the CBC has failed the forces or to state a case against the oppinion of all these other, esteemed people.

[fifeboy]

ridenrain ridenrain:

I'm sorry to be brutally honest, Fifeboy, but I have a higher opinion of Boot that I do of you.
(snap?)

Now I feel really bad!

ridenrain ridenrain:

While I can agree that one sentance was on a limb, I've shown a great many other people who are far more qualified who hold the same opinion reguarding the CBC's coverage.
I'll discard that sentance but I want Boot to either admit that the CBC has failed the forces or to state a case against the oppinion of all these other, esteemed people.

??? Boot or me??? Everyone is a critic. I think bootlegga has shown that the CBC gives good coverage of the war. My only suggestion, as you have already made up your mind, it to watch the CBC news and see for yourself. I have been watching for the famous Mansbridge eye roll you keep referring to. Where is it? You trash the CBC, when you are given examples of the CBC not doing the things you say, you just go on. Oh well? What should I expect?

[ridenrain]

...are you still here?

[bootlegga]

I don't see the CBC as failing the CF. I think a quick overview of the CBC website and/or watching some National clips off Youtube will prove that. Could the CBC provide more coverage? Probably, but I'm guessing that their in-country coverage dropped precipitously after the Melissa Fung abduction.

Soldiers are entitled to their opinion that the CBC sucks. Given that most of them admit a bias towards the Conservative party and right wing politics, I don't understand why thier POV comes as a surprise to anyone, especially given the right wing penchant for trashing the CBC as a haven for leftists.

Likewise, I'm not surprised that the unions in this country hold a poor view of the Sun newspaper chains or the National Post, as they've never said anything positive about them. And, yes, I'm aware that the CBC is a public institution and those others are private corporations, but the CBC tries to provide balance whenever possible. Watch an 'At Issue' Panel discussion sometime, they generally try and provide three POVs, one right, one left and one centre view.

[roger-roger]

I just found that the CBC would always try and put a bad spin on some stories coming out of Afghanistan, especially anything that involved civilians. Also reading stories about where I had personally witnessed the event, CTV tended to be very neutral and accurate, the CBC had a slight bias but more importantly would omit facts to serve their bias.

Also I cant stand that stupid radio play the CBC has, its complete nonsense you would think they would try and portray at least some realism.

[Chumley]

I don't like when they put mood setting background music into the stories.

[fifeboy]

ridenrain ridenrain:

...are you still here?

It's obvious that you aren't, at least not all of you!

Two flamingos short of a garden!

[fifeboy]

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

I just found that the CBC would always try and put a bad spin on some stories coming out of Afghanistan, especially anything that involved civilians. Also reading stories about where I had personally witnessed the event, CTV tended to be very neutral and accurate, the CBC had a slight bias but more importantly would omit facts to serve their bias.

I know this is going to sound completely out of line here, but my own experience with news stories involving subjects I know something about have shown that the media never really get the story right. When checking with others involved, they felt the same, but saw the need for a different emphasis. The only way one can get around that is to go to several independent news sources. Including Al Jazeera.

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

Also I cant stand that stupid radio play the CBC has, its complete nonsense you would think they would try and portray at least some realism.

Again, this is not put on to inform the troops, they know how it is. It's purpose appears to give people a human connection with our men and women fighting in Afganistan. I have not listened to it this year because of time constraints, but last year was rather good, at least from the standpoint of a middle aged man sitting in Saskatoon.

[ffennekk]

Being new to CKA I appologize if this is not the correct format for this, but
Having just read the original article, I would like to know where the stats came from.

according to: http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/news-nouve ... sp?id=2865

we have a reg force size of 65,251 pers. as 0f 31 Dec 2008. It is my opinion that we need to increase the size of our military to effectively fill the tasks that are being asked of our military.


ffennekk

[roger-roger]

fifeboy fifeboy:

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

I just found that the CBC would always try and put a bad spin on some stories coming out of Afghanistan, especially anything that involved civilians. Also reading stories about where I had personally witnessed the event, CTV tended to be very neutral and accurate, the CBC had a slight bias but more importantly would omit facts to serve their bias.

I know this is going to sound completely out of line here, but my own experience with news stories involving subjects I know something about have shown that the media never really get the story right. When checking with others involved, they felt the same, but saw the need for a different emphasis. The only way one can get around that is to go to several independent news sources. Including Al Jazeera.

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

Also I cant stand that stupid radio play the CBC has, its complete nonsense you would think they would try and portray at least some realism.

Again, this is not put on to inform the troops, they know how it is. It's purpose appears to give people a human connection with our men and women fighting in Afganistan. I have not listened to it this year because of time constraints, but last year was rather good, at least from the standpoint of a middle aged man sitting in Saskatoon.

I agree, I just found CTV got it 80%-90% right while CBC was more 75%-85%, mostly because their version probably turned more heads the way they printed it. With the radio show thing, it was probably very entertaining. However it's like a doctor watching House or ER, you know most of it is bullshit but what gets to you is that idiots tend to see it and think that is way things really are. You dont need a human connection, all you need is uderstanding, playing a completely fictious radio play does not promote understanding.

[ridenrain]

bootlegga bootlegga:

.... just like your CBC AWOL thread is nothing but pure RR hackery...

I still dont see any retraction on that thread, just a bunch of fancy dancing to hide you're dodge.

[fifeboy]

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

I agree, I just found CTV got it 80%-90% right while CBC was more 75%-85%, mostly because their version probably turned more heads the way they printed it. With the radio show thing, it was probably very entertaining. However it's like a doctor watching House or ER, you know most of it is bullshit but what gets to you is that idiots tend to see it and think that is way things really are. You dont need a human connection, all you need is uderstanding, playing a completely fictious radio play does not promote understanding.

I have to take your word on most of this and accept your point. Like ER, if a real doctor tells me it's BS, I have to believe him.