[ziggy]

RUEZ RUEZ:

ziggy ziggy:

A 911 call will give your physical address to the cops,if it was made on a cellphone they would most likely give the coord's to the controller who would then give it back to the cops or EMS.
I have a couple GPS's,I dont need an amatuer to try explain how one works.

I think you do need a refresher from this "amateur". Your address for the phone means nothing for a 911 call from a cell phone. You've already mixed the two technologies together. You said within seconds of making a call the police would know which tower your call came from. That may be true but it doesn't do them any good. Then you said triangulation was the old method, yet GPS also uses triangulation. I love arguing with you ziggy. You know so much about so little.

I only argue about stuff I know and I built my first radio at 12 years old.
I'm a bit of a phreaker.

[RUEZ]

ziggy ziggy:

Well if I had to take lessons from you on how to run a gps I probably would be dead by now.

The cops know exactly what tower your cell phone call came from,dont believe me then ask a cop or make a 911 hangup call and see how fast they are at your front door.

Your cellphone is probably in gps mode right now and you dont even know it.

Most are and it's a good thing.

OH dear ziggy. Here's your refresher. There are two tracking technologies in cell phones. GPS and tower triangulation. As I said in my first post you can't track a cell phone with less then three towers using triangulation. Your home address attached to your phone account will mean nothing to 911. GPS uses satelites to triangulate your co-ordinates but does not use a tower and will send your co-ordinates to 911 not your tower location. Since that would be useless. And yes my phone gps is on and I turned it on. I don't think they come turned on by default. At least mine haven't.

[ziggy]

RUEZ RUEZ:

ziggy ziggy:

Well if I had to take lessons from you on how to run a gps I probably would be dead by now.

The cops know exactly what tower your cell phone call came from,dont believe me then ask a cop or make a 911 hangup call and see how fast they are at your front door.

Your cellphone is probably in gps mode right now and you dont even know it.

Most are and it's a good thing.

OH dear ziggy. Here's your refresher. There are two tracking technologies in cell phones. GPS and tower triangulation. As I said in my first post you can't track a cell phone with less then three towers using triangulation. Your home address attached to your phone account will mean nothing to 911. GPS uses satelites to triangulate your co-ordinates but does not use a tower and will send your co-ordinates to 911 not your tower location. Since that would be useless. And yes my phone gps is on and I turned it on. I don't think they come turned on by default. At least mine haven't.

Ya ok.

[RUEZ]

ziggy ziggy:

Ya ok.

I don't understand why you think gps will tell police what tower you called from? They can tell that anyway.

[ziggy]

RUEZ RUEZ:

ziggy ziggy:

Ya ok.

I don't understand why you think gps will tell police what tower you called from? They can tell that anyway.

Your phone will do that,when you make a 911 call the first thing the controler tells an oficer is what tower it came from,then gps is used for an exact locate.

Get a cop scanner from the source dude so I dont have to explain this to you anymore.

[RUEZ]

ziggy ziggy:

RUEZ RUEZ:

ziggy ziggy:

Ya ok.

I don't understand why you think gps will tell police what tower you called from? They can tell that anyway.

Your phone will do that,when you make a 911 call the first thing the controler tells an oficer is what tower it came from,then gps is used for an exact locate.

Get a cop scanner from the source dude so I dont have to explain this to you anymore.

You haven't explained anything to me, but it looks like you're starting to understand.

[ziggy]

[quote="RUEZ]I don't understand why you think gps will tell police what tower you called from? They can tell that anyway.[/quote]

Your phone will do that,when you make a 911 call the first thing the controler tells an oficer is what tower it came from,then gps is used for an exact locate.

Get a cop scanner from the source dude so I dont have to explain this to you anymore.

$1:

You haven't explained anything to me, but it looks like you're starting to understand.

I understand your an idiot.
One that cant figure it out so fine.
I tried to explain it to you and you just want to flame so carry on.

[RUEZ]

ziggy ziggy:

I understand your an idiot.
One that cant figure it out so fine.
I tried to explain it to you and you just want to flame so carry on.

Whoa now, no need to start calling names. I understand perfectly how cell phone and gps technology works. It's not my fault you are confused. If you feel like I'm flaming it's because you are stubborn and refuse to listen. I also know there was a man in Williams Lake that died from exposure because he made a 911 call when he got lost, and they knew what tower his call came from but it did them no good because as I've said a tower can pick up signals from 360 degrees. GPS isn't fool proof either because you need 3 satelites and if you are blocked from one of them they aren't going to get a location from you. So I guess you are wrong that the police will have your location within seconds. Next time argue something that you know.

[ShepherdsDog]

ziggy ziggy:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

A lot of phones don't have GPS. Just the week before last, a guy was out on Lake Winnipeg snowmobiling with his kids. He passed out and died while his kids made it to shore, but got stuck in a drift by the mouth of the Red River. It was by using a compass and a cell phone that the son was able to direct searchers to their location. The police knew the location of the closest tower that the signal was coming off of, it had nothing to do with a satellite.

Exactly,with the new telus towers in Alberta now and cell phones not useing the old bag phone freek's above 900 mghz the calls can be tracked to the nearest tower and go from there.

It still took searchers, out of Gimli, several hours to find the kids and it was mainly because the boy was taking bearings with his compass and describing his surroundings over the phone to the police and the searchers.

[acidcomplex]

RUEZ RUEZ:

ziggy ziggy:

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

I love how know one realizes this RFID can easily be used to track someone. Think about it, you pass by a cell tower what every 5 mins?. We can already tell where you are within 10 meters,without the use of any RFID. RFID would make it even easier.

Exactly,within seconds of making a 911 call the cops know exactly which tower it bounces off of and where.Good thing too because by the time someone actually places the call their usually in dire strait's.

It takes more then one cell tower to track someone. It probably takes at least three.

Can be done with min of 2, and the range of a cell tower means your usually within at least two.

GPS enabled phones, when an emergency call is made, will automatically give the tower being picked up of, and the address of that tower, as well as the closest other tower.

The phone will also send GPS to the provider (telus) to assist the operator. Also something you may not know. Your phone will also boost up to its max power wattage, in most cases .08 of a watt to ensure you have the best chance of getting your call out.

[RUEZ]

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

Can be done with min of 2, and the range of a cell tower means your usually within at least two.

I imagine it wouldn't be very accurate though.

[Bibbi]

ziggy ziggy:

Bibbi Bibbi:

poquas poquas:

Holy crap, the paranoia is awfully thick here. What information do you think is going to be on it?

The RFID technology they’re considering can't be tracked by satellite. It's only readable within a few feet. If it makes crossing the border easier, great.

Give me a break! I can disable a cell phone from 30 metres away. The government is also telling companies to put the GPS technology into cellphones. If GPS technology can easily be put into a cellphone chip then it can be put into a card chip as well.

How can you disable a celphone from 30 meters away? I would love to have a tool like that.

I know how to take one out at 100 meters....if the wind is just right.

Check out sites such as www.phonejammer.com.

[acidcomplex]

RUEZ RUEZ:

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

Can be done with min of 2, and the range of a cell tower means your usually within at least two.

I imagine it wouldn't be very accurate though.

Its actually better then you'd think, there's some pretty fun math done by the computer, but three is obviously way better. With two sites your looking at about within 50 meters.

Think of it if the cell towers are this way -----> 0)))).((((0


Each tower sends out a signal, they compare with each other and voila (wont get into the technical way its done)

[borman11]

Bibbi Bibbi:

poquas poquas:

Holy crap, the paranoia is awfully thick here. What information do you think is going to be on it?

The RFID technology they’re considering can't be tracked by satellite. It's only readable within a few feet. If it makes crossing the border easier, great.

Give me a break! I can disable a cell phone from 30 metres away. The government is also telling companies to put the GPS technology into cellphones. If GPS technology can easily be put into a cellphone chip then it can be put into a card chip as well.

Hi there!!!

Bye bye dickwad.....

[Brenda]

borman11 borman11:

Bibbi Bibbi:

poquas poquas:

Holy crap, the paranoia is awfully thick here. What information do you think is going to be on it?

The RFID technology they’re considering can't be tracked by satellite. It's only readable within a few feet. If it makes crossing the border easier, great.

Give me a break! I can disable a cell phone from 30 metres away. The government is also telling companies to put the GPS technology into cellphones. If GPS technology can easily be put into a cellphone chip then it can be put into a card chip as well.

Hi there!!!

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Regards!

Yo!! Go fuck yourself, will you?