[ridenrain]

hwacker hwacker:

Biblesmasher Biblesmasher:

Tracker Tracker:

Albertans want all Canadians to prosper, not just themselves.

Well then they should be calling for Harpers head. Being conservative doesnt mean you have to act like a jackass. Cons need a better leader. (Yes I know the libs do too)

You dolt, Harper was trying to take the money from the parties and put it back in the taxpayers pockets. Now if your party cannot run without the $1.95 from each voter maybe you shouldn't be in Ottawa.

This little gem Harper tabled would have broken the Bloc for good but the dumb ass liberals had to go back the asswipes. Well now your party is seen too all as the shitheads they are.

These lifelines that the libs keep throwing to the Bloc keeps me thinking that these are 2 parties that are linked together. They work together like good/bad cop and beat up the rest of Canada.

Agreed though. This would have crippeled the bloc even more than the Libs.

[Biblesmasher]

hwacker hwacker:

You dolt, Harper was trying to take the money from the parties and put it back in the taxpayers pockets. Now if your party cannot run without the $1.95 from each voter maybe you shouldn't be in Ottawa.

This little gem Harper tabled would have broken the Bloc for good but the dumb ass liberals had to go back the asswipes. Well now your party is seen too all as the shitheads they are.

"Dolt?"

Hahaha. Gosh, golly, that perturbs me. Listen fuck face. As far as I read in the rules of this place, direct attacks were prohibited. Id back the fuck off if I were you.

Yeah lets make it so that big money interests becomes the driving force behind our politics, it seems to have worked out just peachy in the united states. You're all for the big money till you get crushed in fundraising like Obama did McCain and then conservative politicians will be on the networks like McCains surrogates crying like little bitches.

And what fucking gem are you talking about? Taking away public funding does jack to the bloc. They'll continue to win because half of Quebec wants to seperate(Something Im sure will be helped by Harper insulting the bloc)

Ah no, things are going to stay just the way they are since the other parties get to...thats right, vote(to your chagrin I know). That bullshit will never pass so keep dreaming.

[Biblesmasher]

ridenrain ridenrain:

These lifelines that the libs keep throwing to the Bloc keeps me thinking that these are 2 parties that are linked together. They work together like good/bad cop and beat up the rest of Canada.

Agreed though. This would have crippeled the bloc even more than the Libs.

Ah I see, so if it had been the conservatives they would have gladly dived on the grenade. Theyd have tried to kill the Bloc even if it rendered them almost completely flacid in the process. lol. Please. All this talk of traitorism almost makes me forget that the Bloc where approached about a coalition before...Can't remember by whom though...Hmmm...Anyone remember?

Anyway Id love to hear the reasoning behind why the bloc would be so disproportionately harmed by this move.

[HyperionTheEvil]

bootlegga bootlegga:

ridenrain ridenrain:

Where was the bill? What laws were passed? Where was the debate?
None. The sedition coalition decided before the election that they didn't like Harper and ran their koo-coup to get him out. Too bad but more Canadians voted for him than any of the others so he's the PM and all that tantrums in the world does not change that.

You're definately free to go talk to you're MP and tell him what you think though. If more MPs were more worried about their constituants than their party wips, we wouldn't be in this trouble.

Frankly, I can't help but be surprised at the naivete coming from the Conservative camp. Harper has done nothing but piss on the opposition since January 2006 and he expects them to love him. You're both pretty fucking stupid if you think you can piss on someone's corn flakes and expect that they won't lash out at you.

I've already fired off a batch of emails at the local Con, but I suspect like Harper, he's too thick to realize just how close he came to sitting in the Opposition benches.

You just keep on keeping on then, just like Stevie is doing, and we'll see an election next year because of such piss poor attitudes. Because that's exactly what Canada needs right now, to spend another $300 million to satisfy Harper's massive ego. Nevermind the economy, the weak dollar, the increasing deficit, or anything else other than stroking King Harper's giant ego.

I'm surprised that you think that the job of the Government is to be 'nice' to the opposition. You sound like the whiney kid who doesnt get picked for the team and then bitches about not ralizing that the rason he didn't get picked is that he complains so much

The Liberal Party LOST support in the last election, people have less confidence in you know than they did two years ago. And you still want the Consrvative government to kow tow to you?. Her's an idea, go to the voters and see what they say.

But Liberals will simply try to demonize Prime Minister Harper and keep saying theri better and need to form a coalition with seperatists to make the country better with out consulting the Canaidan People.

If the Liberal Party really thinks there right, then go to the pols again in February, maybe you'll have a leader by then.

[hwacker]

Biblesmasher Biblesmasher:

hwacker hwacker:

You dolt, Harper was trying to take the money from the parties and put it back in the taxpayers pockets. Now if your party cannot run without the $1.95 from each voter maybe you shouldn't be in Ottawa.

This little gem Harper tabled would have broken the Bloc for good but the dumb ass liberals had to go back the asswipes. Well now your party is seen too all as the shitheads they are.

"Dolt?"

Hahaha. Gosh, golly, that perturbs me. Listen fuck face. As far as I read in the rules of this place, direct attacks were prohibited. Id back the fuck off if I were you.

Yeah lets make it so that big money interests becomes the driving force behind our politics, it seems to have worked out just peachy in the united states. You're all for the big money till you get crushed in fundraising like Obama did McCain and then conservative politicians will be on the networks like McCains surrogates crying like little bitches.

And what fucking gem are you talking about? Taking away public funding does jack to the bloc. They'll continue to win because half of Quebec wants to seperate(Something Im sure will be helped by Harper insulting the bloc)

Ah no, things are going to stay just the way they are since the other parties get to...thats right, vote(to your chagrin I know). That bullshit will never pass so keep dreaming.

Ok, well we can all see you're not the sharpest tool in the shed. Maybe you should stay out of the political threads until you understand WTF really happened.

What “perturbs me” is we allow dumb shits like you to vote and have a say of what goes on in Canada, the sad part is you know 2/5th’s of nothing and prove it time and time again with post just like that

[CommanderSock]

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

bootlegga bootlegga:

ridenrain ridenrain:

Where was the bill? What laws were passed? Where was the debate?
None. The sedition coalition decided before the election that they didn't like Harper and ran their koo-coup to get him out. Too bad but more Canadians voted for him than any of the others so he's the PM and all that tantrums in the world does not change that.

You're definately free to go talk to you're MP and tell him what you think though. If more MPs were more worried about their constituants than their party wips, we wouldn't be in this trouble.

Frankly, I can't help but be surprised at the naivete coming from the Conservative camp. Harper has done nothing but piss on the opposition since January 2006 and he expects them to love him. You're both pretty fucking stupid if you think you can piss on someone's corn flakes and expect that they won't lash out at you.

I've already fired off a batch of emails at the local Con, but I suspect like Harper, he's too thick to realize just how close he came to sitting in the Opposition benches.

You just keep on keeping on then, just like Stevie is doing, and we'll see an election next year because of such piss poor attitudes. Because that's exactly what Canada needs right now, to spend another $300 million to satisfy Harper's massive ego. Nevermind the economy, the weak dollar, the increasing deficit, or anything else other than stroking King Harper's giant ego.

I'm surprised that you think that the job of the Government is to be 'nice' to the opposition. You sound like the whiney kid who doesnt get picked for the team and then bitches about not ralizing that the rason he didn't get picked is that he complains so much

The Liberal Party LOST support in the last election, people have less confidence in you know than they did two years ago. And you still want the Consrvative government to kow tow to you?. Her's an idea, go to the voters and see what they say.

But Liberals will simply try to demonize Prime Minister Harper and keep saying theri better and need to form a coalition with seperatists to make the country better with out consulting the Canaidan People.

If the Liberal Party really thinks there right, then go to the pols again in February, maybe you'll have a leader by then.

Under our west minister style system, you don't vote for a prime minister, or a party, you vote for a local representative. The 308 Representatives select a leader. If the leader loses the confidence of the house another leader is elected. If the house is divided, as in our party oriented democracy, the representatives of certain constituents can unite and choose a leader who they have confidence in. Harper has lost the confidence of the house.

Is there a problem here?

[CommanderSock]

$1:

What “perturbs me” is we allow dumb shits like you to vote and have a say of what goes on in Canada, the sad part is you know 2/5th’s of nothing and prove it time and time again with post just like that

Not a fan of universal suffrage are you?

What “perturbs me” is that dumb shits bible thumping hicks have a say in elections over all the fucked up issues and they know nothing else, but you know what, bless them, we live in a democratic society.

[HyperionTheEvil]

CommanderSock CommanderSock:

Under our west minister style system, you don't vote for a prime minister, or a party, you vote for a local representative. The 308 Representatives select a leader. If the leader loses the confidence of the house another leader is elected. If the house is divided, as in our party oriented democracy, the representatives of certain constituents can unite and choose a leader who they have confidence in. Harper has lost the confidence of the house.

Is there a problem here?

You vote for a party or idea, the person you vote for rpesents those ideas and the leader is chosen before hand if your representitive is member of that party. But nevertheless you've ducked the question, not to mention that the Liberals are slitting Dion's throat now, when just a few days ago he was your choice to be PM.....again

Want to prove your party is good for the country, ask Canadians in February

[CommanderSock]

$1:

You vote for a party or idea, the person you vote for rpesents those ideas and the leader is chosen before hand if your representitive is member of that party. But nevertheless you've ducked the question, not to mention that the Liberals are slitting Dion's throat now, when just a few days ago he was your choice to be PM.....again

Want to prove your party is good for the country, ask Canadians in February

They should. I don't support the coalition but I see little choice. I'd support an election, but I can almost guarantee, regardless of the poll numbers, that it will be another con minority. That places us in in square one.

That means Harper will still have to tone down many of the bills. He still needs acceptance of the other parties before a legislation passes. Ultimately and effectively, we'll get nowhere again and Harpo can't play against the other parties, instead he must play with them.

[Biblesmasher]

hwacker hwacker:

Ok, well we can all see you're not the sharpest tool in the shed. Maybe you should stay out of the political threads until you understand WTF really happened.

What “perturbs me” is we allow dumb shits like you to vote and have a say of what goes on in Canada, the sad part is you know 2/5th’s of nothing and prove it time and time again with post just like that

"we" can all see? Who, you and your fellow mouth breathers? I'm devastated.

Why dont you display your formidable intellect further by dazzling us with some more grade 5 ad hominem and tired cliches, Shakespeare. Or maybe you're not the quickest bunny in the forest...Or A few threads short of a sweater...

Pathetic.

and ZERO content in your post hwackness, congratulations.

Tell me you political scientist you, tell me what 'really happened'...Try not embarassing your Neanderthal ancestry this time by substituting vagueness and insolent stupidity in place of actual analysis. It helps.

[hwacker]

Biblesmasher Biblesmasher:

hwacker hwacker:

Ok, well we can all see you're not the sharpest tool in the shed. Maybe you should stay out of the political threads until you understand WTF really happened.

What “perturbs me” is we allow dumb shits like you to vote and have a say of what goes on in Canada, the sad part is you know 2/5th’s of nothing and prove it time and time again with post just like that

"we" can all see? Who, you and your fellow mouth breathers? I'm devastated.

Why dont you display your formidable intellect further by dazzling us with some more grade 5 ad hominem and tired cliches, Shakespeare. Or maybe you're not the quickest bunny in the forest...Or A few threads short of a sweater...

Pathetic.

and ZERO content in your post hwackness, congratulations.

Tell me you political scientist you, tell me what 'really happened'...Try not embarassing your Neanderthal ancestry this time by substituting vagueness and insolent stupidity in place of actual analysis. It helps.

Let me put it this way stupid, Harper played his cards and the moronic liberals and ndp took it hook line and sinker. Must suck to vote for idiots that are the fools of Canada, not much of a stretch for you though

[ShepherdsDog]

$1:

Not a fan of universal suffrage are you?

What “perturbs me” is that dumb shits bible thumping hicks have a say in elections over all the fucked up issues and they know nothing else, but you know what, bless them, we live in a democratic society.

Were universal 'sufferage' not in place, those bible thumpers wouldn't be allowed to vote. Only the land owners and educated would have the vote.

[Terence]

CommanderSock CommanderSock:

Under our west minister style system, you don't vote for a prime minister, or a party, you vote for a local representative. The 308 Representatives select a leader. If the leader loses the confidence of the house another leader is elected. If the house is divided, as in our party oriented democracy, the representatives of certain constituents can unite and choose a leader who they have confidence in. Harper has lost the confidence of the house.

Is there a problem here?

A big one, the public doesn't support the concept.

Government is only effective if the public believes in it. The majority, including I as a Liberal, do not support this deal with the devil.

[HyperionTheEvil]

CommanderSock CommanderSock:

$1:

You vote for a party or idea, the person you vote for rpesents those ideas and the leader is chosen before hand if your representitive is member of that party. But nevertheless you've ducked the question, not to mention that the Liberals are slitting Dion's throat now, when just a few days ago he was your choice to be PM.....again

Want to prove your party is good for the country, ask Canadians in February

They should. I don't support the coalition but I see little choice. I'd support an election, but I can almost guarantee, regardless of the poll numbers, that it will be another con minority. That places us in in square one.

That means Harper will still have to tone down many of the bills. He still needs acceptance of the other parties before a legislation passes. Ultimately and effectively, we'll get nowhere again and Harpo can't play against the other parties, instead he must play with them.

Harper is the the PM of the governing party, they can vote down his policies whenever they want. For two years the liberals rolled over and refused to take the issue to Candians of who is better suited to run the country.

you want a decsion, instead of the liberal/NDP/BQ powr grab , take the issue to the voters by voting down the government and we'll see what they think

[uwish]

InternetChatter InternetChatter:

CommanderSock CommanderSock:

Under our west minister style system, you don't vote for a prime minister, or a party, you vote for a local representative. The 308 Representatives select a leader. If the leader loses the confidence of the house another leader is elected. If the house is divided, as in our party oriented democracy, the representatives of certain constituents can unite and choose a leader who they have confidence in. Harper has lost the confidence of the house.

Is there a problem here?

A big one, the public doesn't support the concept.

Government is only effective if the public believes in it. The majority, including I as a Liberal, do not support this deal with the devil.

wow, big of a liberal to say that. Bravo Zulu!