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Wow,a campaign ad off a blog.I think it's a lil bit more complicated to kill nafta then that,cretian tried didnt he?

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Ya, kill nafta and put export tarriffs on american goods and import duties,see who's left to buy their good's then.

Wow!! We have a market of 36 million compared to a market of 360 million. I wonder who is going to get fucked.

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Who are they going to sell to? America's broke,their market is now the world.

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Ill tell you right now that big outfits looking to buy a fleet of pickup trucks will be buying them from overseas before paying import duties.

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Wow,a campaign ad off a blog.I think it's a lil bit more complicated to kill nafta then that,cretian tried didnt he?

eh! That ad is what he is running...



o.k. yeah... off a blog is not that reliable.. so here it is off of the Government web site...

http://obama.senate.gov/press/070802-senators_durbin/

http://www.house.gov/schakowsky/PressRe ... rpPC.shtml

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Who are they going to sell to? America's broke,their market is now the world.

America is broke... WTF!! So is Europe buying up banks, and every other country. Iceland is bankrupt.

So what market has not been effected??

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Funny how Americans will bitch about their job's getting outsourced but their the first ones to run down to wal mart and buy a cheap trinket from China.

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Who are they going to sell to? America's broke,their market is now the world.

America is broke... WTF!! So is Europe buying up banks, and every other country. Iceland is bankrupt.

So what market has not been effected??

none,thats why if your competitive in your bussiness and can compete with the rest of the world you may just keep your head above water.

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Funny how Americans will bitch about their job's getting outsourced but their the first ones to run down to wal mart and buy a cheap trinket from China.

yeah, agreed.

But I don't shop at Walmart personally. Roots, ex-wife likes the Gap.

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none, thats why if your competitive in your bussiness and can compete with the rest of the world you may just keep your head above water.

o.k. ziggy, start up a manufacturing company of jeans, and compete against a country like China that has slave labor, communist and currupt government.

Or Mexico, where they have no polution controls and people earn $1 a day so big corporations can make obscene profits off the backs of the poor.

I know you don't have a 100 million, so scrapping NAFTA won't effect you.

Canada did fine before NAFTA and will do fine after NAFTA.

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i remember when they tried the protectionist thing for their coal mines,we said ok and found markets all over the world like brazil and other places that never bought canadian coal before.Now the states is our lowest customer and they take a fraction of our coal to blend with theres,they had to subsidize all their mines and lots of people eventually lost their jobs as these huge mines started shutting down when the govt. money ran out.Now they beg for contracts but sorry,were obligated to china and other countries that believe in freer trade.

Just an example.

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ziggy ziggy:

i remember when they tried the protectionist thing for their coal mines,we said ok and found markets all over the world like brazil and other places that never bought canadian coal before.Now the states is our lowest customer and they take a fraction of our coal to blend with theres,they had to subsidize all their mines and lots of people eventually lost their jobs as these huge mines started shutting down when the govt. money ran out.Now they beg for contracts but sorry,were obligated to china and other countries that believe in freer trade.

Just an example.

Wow, great example Ziggy.

So they opened up their own coal mines and created new jobs for the US marketplace.

They have many clean coal burning plants in Texas.. and vast resources of coal in the USA.

Why the fuck would the import from Canada. So you just proved that protectionism works for the USA.

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ziggy ziggy:

i remember when they tried the protectionist thing for their coal mines,we said ok and found markets all over the world like brazil and other places that never bought canadian coal before.Now the states is our lowest customer and they take a fraction of our coal to blend with theres,they had to subsidize all their mines and lots of people eventually lost their jobs as these huge mines started shutting down when the govt. money ran out.Now they beg for contracts but sorry,were obligated to china and other countries that believe in freer trade.

Just an example.

Wow, great example Ziggy.

So they opened up their own coal mines and created new jobs for the US marketplace.

They have many clean coal burning plants in Texas.. and vast resources of coal in the USA.

Why the fuck would the import from Canada. So you just proved that protectionism works for the USA.

Most of their mines arent profitable or they wouldnt be subsidized and our coal in BC is the cleanest in the world,the reason they like it is they can blend it with their high ash product and actually make it useable instead of burning it as dirty coal for thermal power generation.Say what you want but we used to ship over 4 million tonnes to detroit a year for blend coal for steel and now it's down to about 100,000 tonnes.So there cost of ROM coal went up after they stopped buying ours,Now we sell for 4 times the price and dont need the US market to survive and our mines make money.

And America has some of the dirtiest coal on the continent,spend over 22 years in the industry and you would know that.

Most of their mines are also not exactly very safe,you can search American fatalgrams to see how many die in them every year.