Scape Scape:
ridenrain ridenrain:
The same folks who are defending the proposed Liberal defence cuts are the same folks who were bitching that the democratic agreement to leave Afghanistan by 2011 is unnaceptable. It's the same with procurement. They demand everything be made in Canada then bitch that everything costs too much.
Stop playing politics with the forces and the lives of the troops.
You want to be able to spend on the troops without limit, vetting or oversight and pretend that is democratic. Are you fucking serious?
We spent on a mission somewhere between $8 to $28 Billion on this with nearly 100 dead and leaving on an arbitrary troop rotation date. Karzi has yet to demonstrate that his own domestic forces have any ability to even secure the capitol, let alone the whole nation that has a porous boarders. 6 months ago it was treason to even suggest a pull out date and now your walking away in the dead of night. Sorry, the mission sucks but last I checked our colours don't run. We have what in the form of a plan after 2011? I haven't heard shit have you? What happens if it all goes to hell then what do we have a plan B to go back in or do we wash our hands? I haven't heard you say shit about that Rain.
Put that in perspective..
Did we get a parliamentary discussion and vote in 2002?
What about when martin moved us?
No.. and no.
The lapdog media didn't even notice back then.
I'm not saying it's all cupcakes and sprinkles but it's better now than before.
I don't like the arbitrary 2011 deadline but that's what we agreed on and that's what democracys do. Canada can't stay there forever and we must set and end date, reguardless of what Afghanistan or NATO wants.