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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:42 pm
uwish uwish: man somewhat shit in your cornflakes this morning didn't they! maybe your right Derby just call us liberal!  Seems to me you started this little line of debates. You set the tone and started the insults and deserved what you got. As usual you posted no relevant points, no supporting data, and absolutely no intelligent thinking. I mearly responded at a level you would be able to understand since its quite clear that you are incapable of debating at an adult level (or at least an educated one). All you have done is spew a bunch of partisan crap about tired rhetoric of how the libs are "tax and spend", "anti-military", "corrupt", blah blah blah. Same old nonesense that you have simply c&p'ed from the other anti-Liberal hacks on this board. Off you go now sunshine. 
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:45 pm
I didn't set any tone, you were the fist to start pushing insults.
I have more supporting data than you could imagine unfortunately you don't have the ability to comprehend it. I have tried posting it, but likely it is to 'wordy' for you since it contains minimal pictures I suspect it doesn't captivate your attention long enough.
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:47 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: How does that feel to such a devoted party worker, Derby? That an ex-party leader is saying that you guys need a big loss to shock some sense into you're thick heads? What do you say when you're own people say that the effects and corruption of ADSCAM still smell up the party so bad they want you to lose?
You're the one that needs to look for a new party. So what? Why should one disgruntled persons opinion change mine. Mines based on Dions platform and not on a bunch of buzzwords still being tossed around by people who support someone who tried to bribe a dying man. Everything you have ever posted about concerning your dislike of political porking, political appointments, corruption in office, media control, party control and the entire political system in general has been proven in your own party. Everything. Yet you always have a "but" for why its perfectly acceptable under Harper the things you found unacceptable in the Liberals. You fancy yourself a political reformer and as somebody who thinks he knows how to make the system better but in reality you are nothing more then a kool-aid drinking con blindly supporting his party doing exactly what you cried about when the Liberals were in office. On yer bike sunshine. 
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:50 pm
uwish uwish: Nasty they are??
because he isn't status quo? because he calls a duck a duck
fucken grow up! talk about the policital correctness run amuk.
the only reason some people / groups are getting pissy is because their free ride at the trough is about to come to an end! You weren't eh? I followed the tone of this post and the one after it. At least when kids get caught hiding their peas under the mashed potatoes and are caught in a lie they look cute not admitting it. You don't and you need to grow up real soon sunshine.
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:50 pm
you say that still voting for a party after adscam.
what's your 'BUT' to excuse that?
what's your 'But' to excuse HRDC boondoggle?
what's your 'But' to excuse kyoto and the liberals inaction for years?
'But's' are relative and you dish them out just as much as anyone else.
pot, this is kettle
u black!
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:51 pm
DerbyX DerbyX: Funny how you guys bitch about the media not being conservative firendly yet the entire Sun newspaper chain is conservative, the National Post is, any western TV station certainly is. In fact this whole media bias thing is just crap by people who consider anything but glowing pieces of praise to be proof of bias against them.

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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:51 pm
DerbyX DerbyX: uwish uwish: Nasty they are??
because he isn't status quo? because he calls a duck a duck
fucken grow up! talk about the policital correctness run amuk.
the only reason some people / groups are getting pissy is because their free ride at the trough is about to come to an end! You weren't eh? I followed the tone of this post and the one after it. At least when kids get caught hiding their peas under the mashed potatoes and are caught in a lie they look cute not admitting it. You don't and you need to grow up real soon sunshine. still waiting for this big lie? where is it? waiting..
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:57 pm
uwish uwish: you say that still voting for a party after adscam.
what's your 'BUT' to excuse that?
what's your 'But' to excuse HRDC boondoggle?
what's your 'But' to excuse kyoto and the liberals inaction for years?
'But's' are relative and you dish them out just as much as anyone else.
pot, this is kettle
u black! Still haven't learned to read yet have you? Chretien and Martin were cleared of any wrong doing in adscam so thats a wash. Ditto HRDC. Dion is now in charge and its a whole new ball game whereas you guys keep supporting Harpers corrupt actions. You are just getting so desperate and pathetic now its getting sad to watch.
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:59 pm
uwish uwish: still waiting for this big lie?
where is it?
waiting..
Its right there in front of you sunshine. Its not worth my time to explain everything to you as if I was explaining things to a small child, though debating you is very similiar. If you can't keep up then you are free to navigate off to the kiddie CKA section.
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:02 pm
hahaha
once bitten twice shy, or evedentally unless your roller derby, and not able to figure that out yourself.
so just because dithers and crooked face are off the hook that excuses adscam?
that indicates a systemic problem deep within your party of choice.
and you answered my question, if you say Dion is in charge then I guess everything must me ok, after all he is such a strong, well spoken leader.
Well guys, looks like were done here. Roller derby says Dion is in charge now, I guess the liberals just be fine.
maybe you haven't noticed, but if Dion is your ball game as you put it, you better get a ringer or your in SERIOUS trouble.
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Reverend Blair
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:45 pm
$1: Harper is no coward--I say this a liberal. I have a lot of respect for the man, partly because I was brought up to honour our Prime Minister, and I'm teaching my kids to do the same, and partly because I can accuse him of a lot of things, but backing down isn't one of them.
But yes, he does have an almost neurotic need to control the message. Not just during the lection, but since he's gained power. I think he sees the bureaucracy as his enemy (maybe the Conservatives are too used ot being in opposition and are having trouble adapting to power), so he regularly muzzles his top bureaucrats, and especially his scientists. He muzzles his own Ministers; everything must go through the his office (Privy Council). He can't control the press, but he certainly tries to control their access. I don't buy it, Zipperfish. First off, I was taught that honour and respect is earned. Harper has done nothing to earn either from me. In fact on the one issue I thought he might perform well, he has failed dismally. Second of all, Harper has backed down from a lot of things, at least in public. Privatizing health care. Outlawing abortion. Banning gay marriage. Global warming denialism. Harper's position on those things wasn't popular, and most who have been watching him for a long time think he'll try to sneak them in the back door later, but he did back down. Finally, hiding from the press and the public is generally considered political cowardice. It was under Martin, it was under Chretien, it was under Mulroney, and it was under Trudeau. You can toss Campbell, Turner and Clark in there as well.
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:09 pm
uwish uwish: Nasty they are??
because he isn't status quo? because he calls a duck a duck
fucken grow up! talk about the policital correctness run amuk.
the only reason some people / groups are getting pissy is because their free ride at the trough is about to come to an end! O.K. I a gonna call you on thissen here one. Show me when the boy actually used the words----A Duck is A Duck Stevie says a  is a  leaving Canada and Canadians  Are you suggesting stevie will end my free ride--my pension? ![Bonk [bonk]](./images/smilies/bonk.gif)
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:53 pm
no, my comments are implying that he doesn't talk in code. If it walks like a duck, acts like a duck it is a duck! like the arts funding cut, he said most Canadians are not that interested. Harsh? maybe a bit but your thinking it and so am I  nice duckies.
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ridenrain
CKA Uber
Posts: 22594
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:57 pm
yeah, they were all cleared .. Like Brian Mulroney. You'll stonewall any crime and ignore any criticism of you're party till the day you die. We have decades of Liberal crimes against Canadians and you have red kool aid and a record of Justin Trudeau singing Kumbiya, over and over again. Remember when Jean Lambert, a former vice-president of Groupaction Marketing Inc. expressed wories that Chretien would have him killed over ADSCAM? $1: "I was a speck of dust in this," he said. "If I was right, well, the idea of having a hunting accident in my living room didn't interest me, either." If that happened in the US, you'd be livid and if Mulroney did that,the whole liberal camp would be quating on parliament hill. Of this.. you say nothing. No wonder Liberal insiders are sick of their own brand.
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hwacker
CKA Uber
Posts: 10896
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:01 pm
Reverend Blair Reverend Blair: Why is Harper afraid of the press? Why is he afraid of the public? Why is he afraid of real democracy?
Harper is a coward who hides from anybody who might challenge him. He's afraid to let his candidates talk to the media or the people. and we can all hope when he wins a majority you'll all leave this country under protest. Oh take the CBC with you. Damn are the left really pissy this election, it must suck knowing you have lost already.
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