CKA Forums
Login 
canadian forums
bottom
 
 
Canadian Forums

Author Topic Options
Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber


GROUP_AVATAR
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 42160
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:33 pm
 


you sure it wan't you howling pimp?


Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber
 Toronto Maple Leafs


GROUP_AVATAR

GROUP_AVATAR
Profile
Posts: 20460
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:36 pm
 


Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:
Coyotes should not be harmful to humans, at least not that I know of anyways. I have heard some howling before but they have never approached. Them fuckers were pretty close too.


Coyotes aren't anymore dangerous to humans then any animal their size.

Their frequent contact with humans is because their natural habitat has been encroached by us humans. They are actually very intelligent critters and so have learned our ways and environment very well so they have adapted extremely well.


Offline
CKA Elite
CKA Elite
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 3362
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:37 pm
 


ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
you sure it wan't you howling pimp?


Nah, when I go out female hunting, I usually go to bars and not the woods. :lol:


Offline
Site Admin
Site Admin
 Vancouver Canucks


GROUP_AVATAR

GROUP_AVATAR
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 19986
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:44 pm
 


Vancouver has been having problems with coyotes in some of the city's parks. It seems they will "aggressively" approach small children wandering around with food in their hands. As to actually attacking them, that is an extremely rare .....if ever event.


Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber


GROUP_AVATAR
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 42160
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:57 pm
 


lily lily:
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
The only thing slightly contradictory is that I will tolerate cats while they are kittens. No other contradiction.


You don't like chis and cats, yet can't understand why people don't like coyotes.


I didn't say that I don't understand why peope don't like them, just that it's interesting how people perceive the two canines. take off the lily tinted glasses and read it again.


Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber
 Toronto Maple Leafs
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 10503
PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:01 am
 


beautiful German Shepards.





PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:35 am
 


DerbyX DerbyX:
Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:
Coyotes should not be harmful to humans, at least not that I know of anyways. I have heard some howling before but they have never approached. Them fuckers were pretty close too.


Coyotes aren't anymore dangerous to humans then any animal their size.

Their frequent contact with humans is because their natural habitat has been encroached by us humans. They are actually very intelligent critters and so have learned our ways and environment very well so they have adapted extremely well.


They didnt adapt,feed them bread and human food and you just signed their death sentence.They will start eating garbage and literally die of malnutrition as they cant break down the starches in our food.The milk goes bad and all pups will also die of malnutrition if moms a garbage coyote.

Their also cold blooded killers and will murder and eat any other coyote pups around or anything else that threaten's their food supply including humans.

In all my years at the mine we treated 3 people for bites from coyotes but never one from a bear which were also all over the site.


Offline
Site Admin
Site Admin
Profile
Posts: 32460
PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:41 am
 


llama66 llama66:
beautiful German Shepards.

Thanks


Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber


GROUP_AVATAR
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 42160
PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:58 am
 


ziggy ziggy:
DerbyX DerbyX:
Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:
Coyotes should not be harmful to humans, at least not that I know of anyways. I have heard some howling before but they have never approached. Them fuckers were pretty close too.


Coyotes aren't anymore dangerous to humans then any animal their size.

Their frequent contact with humans is because their natural habitat has been encroached by us humans. They are actually very intelligent critters and so have learned our ways and environment very well so they have adapted extremely well.


They didnt adapt,feed them bread and human food and you just signed their death sentence.They will start eating garbage and literally die of malnutrition as they cant break down the starches in our food.The milk goes bad and all pups will also die of malnutrition if moms a garbage coyote.

Their also cold blooded killers and will murder and eat any other coyote pups around or anything else that threaten's their food supply including humans.

In all my years at the mine we treated 3 people for bites from coyotes but never one from a bear which were also all over the site.


Coyotes like their domestic brethern can break down starches fairly easily. A lot, if not most dry dog food is full of starch in the form of flour. It may give them some trouble initially(switch the brand of dry on a dog and you'll notice it gives them the shits for a few days), but their digestive systems adapt to garbage quickly. Besides people throw away a lot of meat and bones into the trash.

Our family dog, while I was growing up, wasn't a big fan of potatoes and when he got leftovers, every scrap of meat, carrots and gravy would be gone and the potatoes were licked clean. His favourite snack was road kill crawling with maggots. My dogs, that I got up in northern Manitoba were/are quite happy chewing on dog food, caribou, jumper or moose legs or a fish. The wolf became the dog because they liked being our garbage disposal units.





PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:41 am
 


We had a problem with some people feeding them so brought in a biologist and that's what he told us,they cant digest our food and it is a death sentence. None of the "pit dogs" that were around ever had any pups that survived.


Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber


GROUP_AVATAR
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 42160
PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:50 am
 


Well if you want to get technical, a lot of doctors think that it's too much white bread and starches that are klling us too. Look at what happens to Indians when they abandon a traditional diet, heavy in protein and switch to refined and processed foods.....it complete throws their metabolism and they end up obese and developing type 2 diabetes. Some nutritionists think that humans will require at least another 10 000 years before we are completely adapted to a diet heavy in grains.


Offline
Forum Elite
Forum Elite
 Toronto Maple Leafs
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 1405
PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:04 am
 


Regina Regina:
llama66 llama66:
beautiful German Shepards.

Thanks



I love Sheppards. We used to have a cross with Husky, she was a great dog.





PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:29 pm
 


Shep,Go feed your dog nothing but bread for a week and then post pic's of what it look's like.

Like the pit dogs,it would like look like death warmed over.


Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber


GROUP_AVATAR
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 42160
PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:18 pm
 


The thing is, urban coyotes don't eat 'just' bread when they dig through the garbage, it is full of left over meat and bones, which will be their primary choice. Bread and starches are mixed in with everything else they eat, including rats, mice, cats and vibrating bug eyed rat dogs. It's this ability to digest our refuse that has helped to strengthen the survival of the coyote in an urban environment. There are plenty of dogs here, both feral and pets that eat leftovers and these leftovers contain a lot of rice, another starch. Read the ingedients on a bag of dry cat or dog food. A major component of it is flour.

$1:
Raw Materials
The primary ingredients in commercial dog food are by-products of meat, poultry, and seafood, feed grains, and soybean. The animal parts used for pet food may include damaged carcass parts, bones, and cheek meat, and organs such as intestines, kidneys, liver, lungs, udders, spleen, and stomach tissue. Cereal grains, such as soybean meal, corn meal, cracked wheat, and barley, are often used to improve the consistency of the product as well as to reduce the cost of raw materials. Liquid ingredients may include water, meat broth, or blood. Salt, preservatives, stabilizers, and gelling agents are often used and gelling agents to allow greater homogeneity during processing and also control the moisture. They include bean and guar gums, cellulose, carrageenan, and other starches and thickeners. Palatability can be enhanced with yeast, protein, fat, fish solubles, sweeteners, or concentrated flavors called "digests." Generally, artificial flavors are not used, though smoke or bacon flavors may be added to some treats. Most manufacturers supplement pet foods with vitamins and minerals, since some may be lost during processing.

Additional ingredients used for dry foods include corn gluten feed, meat and bone meal, animal fats, and oils. For a meat-like texture, dry foods require more amylaceous, or starch ingredients; proteinaceous adhesives, such as collagen, albumens, and casein; and plasticizing agents. Semi-moist pet foods usually require binders, which come from a variety of sources, such as gels, cereal flours, sulfur-containing amino acids, lower aLkyl mercaptans, lower alkyl sulfides and disulfides, salts, and thiamin. Semimoist products may also incorporate soybean flakes, bran flakes, soluble carbohydrates, emulsifiers, stabilizers, and dried skim milk and dried whey.

Antioxidants are often used to retard oxidation and rancidity of fats. These include butylated hydroxy anisole (BHA), butylated hydroxy toluene (BHT), and tocopherol. To prevent mold and bacterial growth, producers use either sucrose, propylene glycol, sorbic acid, or potassium and calcium sorbates.

http://www.dogs.inhand.de/feeding/dogfood.html


Many of the animals(coyotes, bears, foxes, raccoons etc) that come from the wild and begin eating from garbage dumps will become ill, but over a couple of generations they are able to adapt their digestive systems and produce enzymes capable of handling these new sources of nutrition. The so called 'pit dogs' look ill for more reasons than just extra starch in their lives. What other kinds of contaminants, poisons and toxins have they consumed while rooting through garbage?





PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 4:47 am
 


They dont root through any garbage,they are getting fed leftover sandwichs by the workers.Within a month they look emancipated,most dont last the year.No toxins either,their very touchy with the environment and all the wildlife is monitored constantly.


Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 46 posts ]  Previous  1  2  3  4  Next



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 30 guests




 
     
All logos and trademarks in this site are property of their respective owner.
The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © Canadaka.net. Powered by © phpBB.