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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:39 pm
 


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Reverend Blair Reverend Blair:
You guys want to run everything like a business, Pluggy. You want Harper to have the top job. What experience does he have running a business?


Bureaucrats run government.

So neither Harper, nor Dion, nor Layton could do anything to improve healthcare...
Yet you blame one (or all) of them for making it worse.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:01 am
 


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He has a masters in economics which is probably more than what most people who own their own business have.


Yeah, but most economists don't agree with his cutting the GST or his aversion to consumption taxes, so apparently he's not a very good economist.

He's never run a business. In fact he spent some time in the U of C basement and then headed up the NCC as a undeclared lobbyist. The rest his time has been spent in politics...either in the back rooms or as an MP. Most of his time as an MP has been spent in opposition.

So if we define the job of running government on your terms, then your own guy doesn't meet the qualifications.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:34 am
 


god again with this.

you are claiming the conservatives are intellectually inferior yet you claim tax breaks are 'bad for the economy'

typical tax and spend liberal philosophy.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:39 am
 


I'm saying, first and foremost, that he doesn't meet your own criteria for a leader. That you cannot or will not understand that is typical Conservative hypocrisy.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:41 am
 


Reverend Blair Reverend Blair:
I'm saying, first and foremost, that he doesn't meet your own criteria for a leader. That you cannot or will not understand that is typical Conservative hypocrisy.



[boff]

With that guy dildo as your lieberal boss and you are dumping on harper as a leader??


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:50 am
 


uwish uwish:
Reverend Blair Reverend Blair:
I'm saying, first and foremost, that he doesn't meet your own criteria for a leader. That you cannot or will not understand that is typical Conservative hypocrisy.



[boff]

With that guy dildo as your lieberal boss and you are dumping on harper as a leader??


Reverend Blair = NDP supporter. (though I'd love to have him as a lib)

You = Stupid.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:08 am
 


must have a pretty weak position when you are resorting to personal attacks.

that's ok, my Engineering degree and P.Eng status verifies I am no idiot

you on the other hand.

I will refrain from comment


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:17 am
 


uwish uwish:
must have a pretty weak position when you are resorting to personal attacks.

that's ok, my Engineering degree and P.Eng status verifies I am no idiot

you on the other hand.

I will refrain from comment


Says the guy using perjorative terms like "liebrals". Belies your intelligence level and the general intelligence of an CONserveIdiot.

No good telling me about your P.Eng. I've known to many engineers.

I'll just trump that with my B.Sc thank-you very much.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:25 am
 


I question the intelligence of anybody who consistently uses the term "Lieberal" or calls the Liberals and NDP "commies", uwish. It shows a lack of imagination and a complete incomprehension of Canadian politics.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:49 am
 


Reverend Blair Reverend Blair:
I question the intelligence of anybody who consistently uses the term "Lieberal" or calls the Liberals and NDP "commies", uwish. It shows a lack of imagination and a complete incomprehension of Canadian politics.


Its like using the word "neocons" to describe the Tories.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:53 am
 


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Its like using the word "neocons" to describe the Tories.


I wish it was. But today's "Tories" aren't Joe Clarks or Mulroneys, they've shed any pretense of Progressive.


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No, Toro. The neo-con movement and the Harper Conservatives' connections to it are well documented. That they are trying to hide that now that neo-conservative policies and ideologies have done such deep damage to their political brethren in the US does not change that.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:11 am
 


Reverend Blair Reverend Blair:
No, Toro. The neo-con movement and the Harper Conservatives' connections to it are well documented. That they are trying to hide that now that neo-conservative policies and ideologies have done such deep damage to their political brethren in the US does not change that.


Faulty Analyst with Bad Analogies Faulty Analyst with Bad Analogies:
And the fall of the Soviet Union exposed socialism for what it was and now the NDP are running from their intellectual heritage.



Pot, kettle.

Kettle, pot.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:18 am
 


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Its like using the word "neocons" to describe the Tories.


I wish it was. But today's "Tories" aren't Joe Clarks or Mulroneys, they've shed any pretense of Progressive.


There's a difference between being conservative and neoconservative. I know that <ahem> "towering intellectuals" like Naomi Klein seem to get easily confused and not understand the differences since all of us Right-Wing Baddies look the same without binoculars way out there on the far left, but I can assure you, they are great.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:46 am
 


I am hoping for a conservative government in the Thatcher mould. Fiscally tight. Steady policy of balanced budgets, respectable military spending, and socially non-opinionated. A government that can stray slightly from an ideology assuming reason is overwhelmingly against some of its core beliefs.

What we have gotten instead, is the opposite. We got an united conservative party that represents the Canadian right wing, basically a core ideology which they stray very little from. Their ideology is that of the Canadian Alliance. Elements of the Progressive Cons have subsided or disappeared altogether.

We have a government that is more interested in soft social issues such as fetus management, morals in the media, consensual age of sex, so on and so forth. These are non issues. They are not important in the great scheme of things. How about the economy stupid?

I don’t blame Harper for the downturn of the economy. I blame him for putting salt on old wounds (trying to re-ignite the abortion debate), and his staunch stance on social issues as mentioned above.

The liberal party was not the most economically progressive party of Canada, but they helped clear our debit through solid budgets and cuts in federal spending. The Mulroney government for all the slack it receives had provided groundwork of stable growth in those liberal years through NAFTA and other more minor international accords. Harper’s government has tried to undermine some of that work by reckless GST cuts, wheat board tampering, and reckless spending in Ontario, which was by the way, nothing more than just a vote buying scheme.

Can the social conservatives please fuck off? Please fiscal conservatives, come back. We’re tired of your evil twin.


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