[SprCForr]

C.M. Burns C.M. Burns:

SprCForr SprCForr:

Pipe bombs are IED's so the media is using an accurate term.

No, pipe bombs are pipe bombs.
Calling them IED's is bullshit headline grabbing!
And it's completely irresponsible journalism to try and evoke terrorism.

Welcome to the strange language of EOD ops. Just because John Q may have not been familiar with the terminology prior to the WOT, doesn't mean it can't or shouldn't be used. The public certainly is familiar with the term now. Pipebombs are of course pipebombs, just as letter bombs are letter bombs, They are all classed as Improvised Explosive Devices, so the term used by the media in this case is still accurate. They are refered to as IED's and have been classed as such (world wide) by police and military for decades. IED's and the like aren't exclusive to terrorism. The majority of people are most likely familiar with it (IED's) due to terrorist acts and the attention they receive, but you'd be suprised at the number of incidents that take place without a terrorist aim.

So, yes, pipebombs are IED's.

[SprCForr]

C.M. Burns C.M. Burns:

I grew up in BC and it seems to me that half a dozen pipe bombs were found every year. It's something that some knuckleheads like to experiment with...

There were/are alot more than half a dozen a year. That would be the average for any border crossing point during the summer. IED's in BC kept our team on the go almost daily.

[C.M. Burns]

SprCForr SprCForr:

C.M. Burns C.M. Burns:

I grew up in BC and it seems to me that half a dozen pipe bombs were found every year. It's something that some knuckleheads like to experiment with...

There were/are alot more than half a dozen a year. That would be the average for any border crossing point during the summer. IED's in BC kept our team on the go almost daily.

Well, then the media was falling down on the job! And thanks for doing yours!

Nevertheless, it doesn't change the fact that the editor/author of the so-called news is out to grab headlines.
The News is not a 'specialist' venue and we civvies know that IED's are used by them thar terrrrrrists. It still stands as irresponsible to start calling them anything other than what we know them as.

it's a bomb
made out of pipe
and other stuff
it's more accurate and informative than IED
by your criteria, you could call what comes out of my nephew's ass after eating beans an IED

pipe bomb
not IED
not party favor
pipe bomb

[Johnny_Utah]

C.M. Burns C.M. Burns:

SprCForr SprCForr:

Pipe bombs are IED's so the media is using an accurate term.

No, pipe bombs are pipe bombs.
Calling them IED's is bullshit headline grabbing!
And it's completely irresponsible journalism to try and evoke terrorism.

Your a Fucking Idiot!
You would have the same Fucked up attitude had someone say a child picked up one pipe bomb(IED) and it went off seriously injuring them or worse..

[C.M. Burns]

Johnny_Utah Johnny_Utah:

C.M. Burns C.M. Burns:

SprCForr SprCForr:

Pipe bombs are IED's so the media is using an accurate term.

No, pipe bombs are pipe bombs.
Calling them IED's is bullshit headline grabbing!
And it's completely irresponsible journalism to try and evoke terrorism.

Your a Fucking Idiot!
You would have the same Fucked up attitude had someone say a child picked up one pipe bomb(IED) and it went off seriously injuring them or worse..

???

Seems like Johnny is angry.
He's following me around like a little kid in the playground.
Wussamatta, Johnny?
Did the big bad man say sumfing mean to you?

See Johnny
See Johhny cry
Cry, Johnny, cry.

[tritium]

IED's OH MY GOD!! NO STAMPEDE FOR ME.

Screw the Stampede, you can't get to it anyhow with all the dam road construction. The city is tearing up all the roads. It's sick, 2 hours of traffic to get anywhere in Calgary.

Over priced, over glorified, dog and pony show.

[mtbr]

tritium tritium:

IED's OH MY GOD!! NO STAMPEDE FOR ME.

Screw the Stampede, you can't get to it anyhow with all the dam road construction. The city is tearing up all the roads. It's sick, 2 hours of traffic to get anywhere in Calgary.

Over priced, over glorified, dog and pony show.

The Stampede is the same as Banff..real Calgarians wouldn't be caught dead in either one

[SprCForr]

C.M. Burns C.M. Burns:

Nevertheless, it doesn't change the fact that the editor/author of the so-called news is out to grab headlines.

Which would be the purpose of the media, wouldn't it? Generating enough buzz to get/maintain viewer share or papers sold, it's a business after all. Everyone knows that. Hyperbole seems to currently rule the day in the media.

$1:

The News is not a 'specialist' venue and we civvies know that IED's are used by them thar terrrrrrists. It still stands as irresponsible to start calling them anything other than what we know them as.

We know them as IED's too. Specialized or new terms are always entering the public consciousness, this is no different. The claim that it's irresponsible is over the top I think. Sensationalist? Probably, but not irresponsible.

$1:

it's a bomb
made out of pipe
and other stuff
it's more accurate and informative than IED

It's a '63 Valiant
made out of steel
and other stuff
it's more accurate and informative than car.

Using your criteria, even calling it a car is irresponsible. Darn those newfangled expressions creeping into our daily language. Bring back horseless carriage!

[PluggyRug]

What if it's made made out of a pressure steam gland with austenitic iron plugs, high carbon steel end caps, high tensile steel bolts, the cavity filled with ammonium tri-iodide and a Barby dolls hair soaked in potassium nitrate for a fuse.

Not a pipe bomb....must be an IED or a watchamacallit bomb.

[flagwaver]

Wullu Wullu:

From the version in the Sun,

$1:

"Our greatest concern is ... the person making these devices is risking personal injury," he said.

They are worried about the idiot who made the bombs? He/She has my full permission and blessing to blow themselves to hell.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2008/06/18/5911916-sun.html

Play with fire and get burned, it just goes up from there. Missing a hand is a fine way to remind yourself not to play with explosives, sure as hell beats a string on tha finger.

Fortunately there were no injuries, to the public. Funny how we can accept the word "pipe bomb" but not IED, when thats exactly what a PB is.