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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:38 am
 


What is today's headline? "Thousands smoke pot for 4-21"?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:58 am
 


no.. if you legalize it they will tax it.. it would sold in corner stores,, have to be hidden away and you would have to pick your weed from a 3 ring binder..:)


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Leagalising pot would put the grow ops out of business, and deprive the organized crime rings of a serious income stream. Much of the pot grown now is traded to the US for cocaine and guns. Were we to legalize it and treat it under the same rules as beer and wine, we would free up police resource to deal with the serious drugs like cocaine and crystal meth. Taxed like beer and wine, it could pay for fighting the serious drugs. Legalized, the serious growers, rather than the merely criminally inclined ones, could go legitimate and pay taxes. Their employees would also be paying taxes, and the truckers hauling it off to the LCB distro centre. Under our current pot laws, only cops, lawyers and criminal groups benefit.


Exactly.

And of course, make the rule that it can only be sold in specialty stores.


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Brenda Brenda:
And of course, make the rule that it can only be sold in specialty stores.


I was thinking of the regular Beer and Wine stores/liquor stores as outlets.


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Keemo Keemo:
Brenda Brenda:
And of course, make the rule that it can only be sold in specialty stores.


I was thinking of the regular Beer and Wine stores/liquor stores as outlets.


I agree with that just to limit weed being sold to 13 year olds by crooked store owners.

We all know it happens.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:59 am
 


Keemo Keemo:
Leagalising pot would put the grow ops out of business, and deprive the organized crime rings of a serious income stream. Much of the pot grown now is traded to the US for cocaine and guns. Were we to legalize it and treat it under the same rules as beer and wine, we would free up police resource to deal with the serious drugs like cocaine and crystal meth. Taxed like beer and wine, it could pay for fighting the serious drugs.


I don't believe that this would happen. Why would someone want to pay excessive taxes at a store when they can grow it in their backyard for a much reduced cost? Grow-ops would still continue if pot were legalized. The U.S. still needs their dope, plus they can undersell a legal commercial operation since they would not have to worry about corporate taxes, regulations, unions or Workers Comp premiums. If the people involved in grow-ops aren't worried about the fuzz in the pre-legalized days I doubt they would have any more of a concern in a post-legalized world.


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Note I said "under the same rules as beer and wine", both of which one is allowed to make for personal consumption. It is possible that some grow shows would remain underground to supply the US market, but they would be much easier for the police to target and bust. Of course, for American potheads near the border, a quick trip across the line would be much easier. I do not know the numbers, but I'd bet a large part of Amsterdam's tourism is pot related, and we could use tourist dollars. :)


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I can't believe that's the future of our country.


bah, I wouldn't say that Ruez. I smoked a LOT of pot in college and high school...I mean a LOT, 420 was a national holiday for me...then I got a job for a mining company as a geologist the day I graduated, I quit the same day, haven't touched it since. I know I'm an oddity, but you can't lose faith, a lot of these kids will grow out of it just like many people do and become good productive members of society. Can't lose faith on our youth that easy


Why do you assume that potheads are not productive? Just about everyone does it, including people with jobs.


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romanP romanP:
camerontech camerontech:
RUEZ RUEZ:
I can't believe that's the future of our country.


bah, I wouldn't say that Ruez. I smoked a LOT of pot in college and high school...I mean a LOT, 420 was a national holiday for me...then I got a job for a mining company as a geologist the day I graduated, I quit the same day, haven't touched it since. I know I'm an oddity, but you can't lose faith, a lot of these kids will grow out of it just like many people do and become good productive members of society. Can't lose faith on our youth that easy


Why do you assume that potheads are not productive? Just about everyone does it, including people with jobs.


Just about everybody smokes pot? Where do you live?


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the trade would still be around, busting grams and ounces is useless, I agree. It's the kgs and lbs that cause the stabbings/robberies.


Where? Not a single person I know who has ever possessed a pound of weed has had any reason to shoot or stab anyone, and that's quite a few people.


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only a complete retard would smoke crack. If it doesn't grow naturally, it's not for recreation.


You do know that crack is to coca what hash is to weed, right?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:24 am
 


Keemo Keemo:
Leagalising pot would put the grow ops out of business, and deprive the organized crime rings of a serious income stream. Much of the pot grown now is traded to the US for cocaine and guns. Were we to legalize it and treat it under the same rules as beer and wine, we would free up police resource to deal with the serious drugs like cocaine and crystal meth. Taxed like beer and wine, it could pay for fighting the serious drugs. Legalized, the serious growers, rather than the merely criminally inclined ones, could go legitimate and pay taxes. Their employees would also be paying taxes, and the truckers hauling it off to the LCB distro centre. Under our current pot laws, only cops, lawyers and criminal groups benefit.


And if coke and meth were legalised, the same would happen. The only reason there is violent crime associated with any drug mostly has to do with the drug being illegal.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:26 am
 


Keemo Keemo:
Brenda Brenda:
And of course, make the rule that it can only be sold in specialty stores.


I was thinking of the regular Beer and Wine stores/liquor stores as outlets.


I would rather see licenses given out to growers to produce any variety they would like. The "medicinal" stuff produced by Health Canada is utter shit, according to the people who smoke it, and it looks like hay.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:28 am
 


commanderkai commanderkai:
romanP romanP:
camerontech camerontech:
RUEZ RUEZ:
I can't believe that's the future of our country.


bah, I wouldn't say that Ruez. I smoked a LOT of pot in college and high school...I mean a LOT, 420 was a national holiday for me...then I got a job for a mining company as a geologist the day I graduated, I quit the same day, haven't touched it since. I know I'm an oddity, but you can't lose faith, a lot of these kids will grow out of it just like many people do and become good productive members of society. Can't lose faith on our youth that easy


Why do you assume that potheads are not productive? Just about everyone does it, including people with jobs.


Just about everybody smokes pot? Where do you live?


It doesn't matter. It's true just about anywhere in the world where it's available, which is also just about everywhere.


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Keemo Keemo:
Leagalising pot would put the grow ops out of business, and deprive the organized crime rings of a serious income stream. Much of the pot grown now is traded to the US for cocaine and guns. Were we to legalize it and treat it under the same rules as beer and wine, we would free up police resource to deal with the serious drugs like cocaine and crystal meth. Taxed like beer and wine, it could pay for fighting the serious drugs. Legalized, the serious growers, rather than the merely criminally inclined ones, could go legitimate and pay taxes. Their employees would also be paying taxes, and the truckers hauling it off to the LCB distro centre. Under our current pot laws, only cops, lawyers and criminal groups benefit.


It would make little difference because the money for the product is in the states, not Canada. Criminal organizations grow pot for the US market, not the Canadian one.
Someone still needs to smuggle it across the line and they wouldn't be buying that product on an open market because the cops from both sides, and competing gangs would be watching.
The major change would be the border would sieze up tight and trade with the US would be severely reduced, crippling much of our economy.
These arguments always result in the same stipid problem; The US isn't going to change it's drug policy just because Canada does. If Canada does change it's drug policy, the Canada/US morder is going to look worst than the US/Mexico border in very short order.


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