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Posts: 12283
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:16 pm
RUEZ RUEZ: Streaker Streaker: Robair Robair: I don't get it. A scooter is okay but these things aren't? Good question. ------------------------------------------------ Seems like Transport Canada is in league with the insurance companies. Think about it. You come up to a scooter on the side of the road and you can pass it. What about a vehicle the size of a golf cart? If it can't keep up with the flow it's definately a traffic hazzard.
You wouldn't want these running around on expressways, but in and around town on city streets these cars would not get in anyone's way.
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:28 pm
These Zenn and Smart Cars are caricatures of cars and designers of truly great cars like Auburn, Dusenberg, Ferrari, Cord, Hudson, Packard, etc must be turning over in their graves...
No true automotive enthusiasts would ever consider one of these golf carts...!!!
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Posts: 15102
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:31 pm
Streaker Streaker: RUEZ RUEZ: Streaker Streaker: Robair Robair: I don't get it. A scooter is okay but these things aren't? Good question. ------------------------------------------------ Seems like Transport Canada is in league with the insurance companies. Think about it. You come up to a scooter on the side of the road and you can pass it. What about a vehicle the size of a golf cart? If it can't keep up with the flow it's definately a traffic hazzard. You wouldn't want these running around on expressways, but in and around town on city streets these cars would not get in anyone's way. Actually if these cars only top out at 40kph, in Prince George they most certainly would be in the way. Or in any other city I've lived, people don't drive 40 kph, or even 50 as the sign suggests. In a real world application these cars would create a traffic hazard.
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:48 pm
RUEZ RUEZ: Streaker Streaker: RUEZ RUEZ: Streaker Streaker: Robair Robair: I don't get it. A scooter is okay but these things aren't? Good question. ------------------------------------------------ Seems like Transport Canada is in league with the insurance companies. Think about it. You come up to a scooter on the side of the road and you can pass it. What about a vehicle the size of a golf cart? If it can't keep up with the flow it's definately a traffic hazzard. You wouldn't want these running around on expressways, but in and around town on city streets these cars would not get in anyone's way. Actually if these cars only top out at 40kph, in Prince George they most certainly would be in the way. Or in any other city I've lived, people don't drive 40 kph, or even 50 as the sign suggests. In a real world application these cars would create a traffic hazard.
It depends on the city, I guess. In and around downtown Montreal - no problem. I remember reading somewhere that the Zenn's top speed is limited by a governor and could easily be increased to something more reasonable, though.
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Posts: 7835
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:01 pm
Streaker Streaker: RUEZ RUEZ: Streaker Streaker: RUEZ RUEZ: Streaker Streaker: Robair Robair: I don't get it. A scooter is okay but these things aren't? Good question. ------------------------------------------------ Seems like Transport Canada is in league with the insurance companies. Think about it. You come up to a scooter on the side of the road and you can pass it. What about a vehicle the size of a golf cart? If it can't keep up with the flow it's definately a traffic hazzard. You wouldn't want these running around on expressways, but in and around town on city streets these cars would not get in anyone's way. Actually if these cars only top out at 40kph, in Prince George they most certainly would be in the way. Or in any other city I've lived, people don't drive 40 kph, or even 50 as the sign suggests. In a real world application these cars would create a traffic hazard. It depends on the city, I guess. In and around downtown Montreal - no problem. I remember reading somewhere that the Zenn's top speed is limited by a governor and could easily be increased to something more reasonable, though.
What Montreal are you living in? Nobody follows traffic laws anywhere, and the only time these things might be useful is in massive gridlock.
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Posts: 876
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:38 pm
I dont see why they cant be used in the city. If they have signal lights, head lights and tail lights. It would greatly help stop smog and reduce fuel consumption. Also would be super cheap for the poor city people who cant afford gasoline.
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Posts: 12283
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:02 am
commanderkai commanderkai: Streaker Streaker: RUEZ RUEZ: Streaker Streaker: RUEZ RUEZ: Streaker Streaker: Robair Robair: I don't get it. A scooter is okay but these things aren't? Good question. ------------------------------------------------ Seems like Transport Canada is in league with the insurance companies. Think about it. You come up to a scooter on the side of the road and you can pass it. What about a vehicle the size of a golf cart? If it can't keep up with the flow it's definately a traffic hazzard. You wouldn't want these running around on expressways, but in and around town on city streets these cars would not get in anyone's way. Actually if these cars only top out at 40kph, in Prince George they most certainly would be in the way. Or in any other city I've lived, people don't drive 40 kph, or even 50 as the sign suggests. In a real world application these cars would create a traffic hazard. It depends on the city, I guess. In and around downtown Montreal - no problem. I remember reading somewhere that the Zenn's top speed is limited by a governor and could easily be increased to something more reasonable, though. What Montreal are you living in? Nobody follows traffic laws anywhere, and the only time these things might be useful is in massive gridlock.
In between episodes of slaughtering injuns I hope you'll use your head and reread the above posts. Like I said, I don't think these vehicles should be allowed on urban expressways like the Ville-Marie, but on downtown streets and in adjacent inner city areas as well as most other residential areas they would not be a hindrance to traffic. From a practical standpoint there doesn't seem to be any reason to keep these things off the road if scooters are allowed.
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Posts: 876
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:44 am
I just bought an old dodge omni and gets 40 mpg. A little bug car out in farming gravel road country. I would love to have an electric car or truck to go to town for mail errands etc. Canadian government should allow this car in canada. Great for farm errands and inter city travel.
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Posts: 15102
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:03 am
mixedfarmer mixedfarmer: I just bought an old dodge omni and gets 40 mpg. A little bug car out in farming gravel road country. I would love to have an electric car or truck to go to town for mail errands etc. Canadian government should allow this car in canada. Great for farm errands and inter city travel. I believe they have now left it up to the individual provinces to decide if it's roadworthy.
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Posts: 7835
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:32 am
Streaker Streaker: commanderkai commanderkai: Streaker Streaker: RUEZ RUEZ: Streaker Streaker: RUEZ RUEZ: Streaker Streaker: Robair Robair: I don't get it. A scooter is okay but these things aren't? Good question. ------------------------------------------------ Seems like Transport Canada is in league with the insurance companies. Think about it. You come up to a scooter on the side of the road and you can pass it. What about a vehicle the size of a golf cart? If it can't keep up with the flow it's definately a traffic hazzard. You wouldn't want these running around on expressways, but in and around town on city streets these cars would not get in anyone's way. Actually if these cars only top out at 40kph, in Prince George they most certainly would be in the way. Or in any other city I've lived, people don't drive 40 kph, or even 50 as the sign suggests. In a real world application these cars would create a traffic hazard. It depends on the city, I guess. In and around downtown Montreal - no problem. I remember reading somewhere that the Zenn's top speed is limited by a governor and could easily be increased to something more reasonable, though. What Montreal are you living in? Nobody follows traffic laws anywhere, and the only time these things might be useful is in massive gridlock. In between episodes of slaughtering injuns I hope you'll use your head and reread the above posts. Like I said, I don't think these vehicles should be allowed on urban expressways like the Ville-Marie, but on downtown streets and in adjacent inner city areas as well as most other residential areas they would not be a hindrance to traffic. From a practical standpoint there doesn't seem to be any reason to keep these things off the road if scooters are allowed.
Wow people are really remembering that comment. Meh whatever, better being remembered for that than a rabid anti-American douche.
Downtown streets in Montreal, when not in gridlock, are still having people going faster than 40 km/h. Those things are still horrible hazards on the road. Scooters don't take up a good chunk of a lane, an overpriced golf cart does. I honestly don't know what Montreal you're in, but I've seen, and driven, on Montreal roads where people blasted alot faster than the average speed limit. Its a fact of life
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Posts: 15102
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:42 am
commanderkai commanderkai: Wow people are really remembering that comment. Meh whatever, better being remembered for that than a rabid anti-American douche. You've just learned lesson number 1. Anything negative you say will be remembered for the length of your stay here.
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Posts: 7835
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:47 am
RUEZ RUEZ: commanderkai commanderkai: Wow people are really remembering that comment. Meh whatever, better being remembered for that than a rabid anti-American douche. You've just learned lesson number 1. Anything negative you say will be remembered for the length of your stay here.
Lesson well learned, and meh, time will forget it as new people say new dumb stuff. I'm not gonna chat about it since I was warned but I respect the decision, and yeah I was a dumbass. That being said, Streaker is doing the pot calling the kettle black trick
Edit: Outside of posting porn or death threats to a specific member, any other lessons that I should be taught sensei?
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Posts: 11362
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:59 am
commanderkai commanderkai: Streaker Streaker: commanderkai commanderkai: Streaker Streaker: RUEZ RUEZ: Streaker Streaker: RUEZ RUEZ: Streaker Streaker: Robair Robair: I don't get it. A scooter is okay but these things aren't? Good question. ------------------------------------------------ Seems like Transport Canada is in league with the insurance companies. Think about it. You come up to a scooter on the side of the road and you can pass it. What about a vehicle the size of a golf cart? If it can't keep up with the flow it's definately a traffic hazzard. You wouldn't want these running around on expressways, but in and around town on city streets these cars would not get in anyone's way. Actually if these cars only top out at 40kph, in Prince George they most certainly would be in the way. Or in any other city I've lived, people don't drive 40 kph, or even 50 as the sign suggests. In a real world application these cars would create a traffic hazard. It depends on the city, I guess. In and around downtown Montreal - no problem. I remember reading somewhere that the Zenn's top speed is limited by a governor and could easily be increased to something more reasonable, though. What Montreal are you living in? Nobody follows traffic laws anywhere, and the only time these things might be useful is in massive gridlock. In between episodes of slaughtering injuns I hope you'll use your head and reread the above posts. Like I said, I don't think these vehicles should be allowed on urban expressways like the Ville-Marie, but on downtown streets and in adjacent inner city areas as well as most other residential areas they would not be a hindrance to traffic. From a practical standpoint there doesn't seem to be any reason to keep these things off the road if scooters are allowed. Wow people are really remembering that comment. Meh whatever, better being remembered for that than a rabid anti-American douche. Downtown streets in Montreal, when not in gridlock, are still having people going faster than 40 km/h. Those things are still horrible hazards on the road. Scooters don't take up a good chunk of a lane, an overpriced golf cart does. I honestly don't know what Montreal you're in, but I've seen, and driven, on Montreal roads where people blasted alot faster than the average speed limit. Its a fact of life
Actually, what you said was far worse than being any kind of "douche". Really.
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Posts: 2398
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:35 am
$18,440 (which should work out to $20,000+ in Canada) gets you a ZENN 2.2 LX with A/C, radio and no air bags. This means I have a vehicle that can go 80 kilometers before it needs a four hour recharge. This would be fine if you never plan to leave the city ever again. Bye bye family car trips, so long camping trips, ta ta Sunday drives to help explore your community/province. I would not purchase this vehicle nor consider it wise to invest in this company until they address range issues. For the same money, and probably less, you can get a Honda Civic which has fantastic milage and is not restricted in range.
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:47 am
QBall QBall: $18,440 (which should work out to $20,000+ in Canada) gets you a ZENN 2.2 LX with A/C, radio and no air bags. This means I have a vehicle that can go 80 kilometers before it needs a four hour recharge. This would be fine if you never plan to leave the city ever again. Bye bye family car trips, so long camping trips, ta ta Sunday drives to help explore your community/province. I would not purchase this vehicle nor consider it wise to invest in this company until they address range issues. For the same money, and probably less, you can get a Honda Civic which has fantastic milage and is not restricted in range.
We should encourage the municipalities to install a power socket on all the lamp posts.
Equip the cars with a teapot for a brew whilst your waiting for a recharge. 
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