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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:34 am
 


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Oh and unless the PCs got someone like Ted Morton and kicked out Stelmach their future is screwed.


Morton? That guy is the worst thing that could happen to Alberta. He should run for the Wildrose Alliance losers.


How can they be losers they haven't competed yet :lol:


Their platform looks like it's catering to the farm. While i am sympathetic with farmers and their plight, the seats are decided in the cities.

plus such gems as: " A Wildrose Alliance Government will support a free market approach to energy production to provide abundant energy at competitive prices for Albertans and export."

Which has gone over so well so far. Some of their stuff is decent enough, like "A Wildrose Alliance Government will allow competition to the Workers Compensation Board." , but Morton would fit better there than in the PCs. eg: "A Wildrose Alliance Government will institute privatization of crown corporations."

I guess I'm too jaded to believe any of what they say will actually happen.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:38 am
 


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TORONTO — With a provincial election call expected soon, Alberta’s Liberal leader says he wants to boost Canada’s economy by letting other provinces profit from the oil boom.

Kevin Taft delivered his message for the Economic Club in Toronto amid speculation Alberta Premier Ed Stelmach could call an election within days.

Taft says a number of U.S. states currently process raw material from the Alberta oilsands but that work could be done elsewhere in Canada.

He says he wants Alberta’s spillover wealth from the oilsands to create jobs in this country.


Now that's a hell of a campaign speech, to bad the rest of Canada can't vote in our election. Does this idiot even know what office he's running for.

And I’d just like to thank the construction unions for there attack ads on Ed, this should be enough to help Ed get a majority again. I’m wondering if Ed will have to claim the Millions of wasted union dues, as campaign donations.

As far as the WRP goes the wheels seem to be falling off the bandwagon all ready with the President of the party quitting last week because of the in fighting going on there.





PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:37 am
 


Has anybody else noticed this thread is all F***ked up? out of order?





PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:46 pm
 


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My bathroom reno looks great!...thanks Ralph


I'm sure Brault and Guite et al like their new bathrooms too, paid for courtesy of Chretien.

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If I had to do it again I would become a teacher all those days off 8O

Having summers off would have been fabulous...MTB season you know :wink:


But why didn't you become a teacher?


Hey I didn't steal the money I look at it as an unexpected tax return.

I would become a teacher if I could roll the clock back twenty years, I think it was about 10th on the list of things I would like to do.





PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:48 pm
 


Hurley... what do you think of kevin Taft?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:57 pm
 


mtbr mtbr:
hurley_108 hurley_108:
mtbr mtbr:
My bathroom reno looks great!...thanks Ralph


I'm sure Brault and Guite et al like their new bathrooms too, paid for courtesy of Chretien.

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If I had to do it again I would become a teacher all those days off 8O

Having summers off would have been fabulous...MTB season you know :wink:


But why didn't you become a teacher?


Hey I didn't steal the money I look at it as an unexpected tax return.

I would become a teacher if I could roll the clock back twenty years, I think it was about 10th on the list of things I would like to do.


I look at it as an expensive way of making people feel good about ignoring almost four decades of crap.

Why was it only 10th?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:00 pm
 


mtbr mtbr:
Hurley... what do you think of kevin Taft?


I think he's the best thing going right now. The Liberals have pledged to eliminate the "health care" tax, invest royalties instead of frittering them away with cheques like Klein, and develop the infrastructure we need.





PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:04 pm
 


hurley_108 hurley_108:
mtbr mtbr:
hurley_108 hurley_108:
mtbr mtbr:
My bathroom reno looks great!...thanks Ralph


I'm sure Brault and Guite et al like their new bathrooms too, paid for courtesy of Chretien.

$1:
If I had to do it again I would become a teacher all those days off 8O

Having summers off would have been fabulous...MTB season you know :wink:


But why didn't you become a teacher?


Hey I didn't steal the money I look at it as an unexpected tax return.

I would become a teacher if I could roll the clock back twenty years, I think it was about 10th on the list of things I would like to do.


I look at it as an expensive way of making people feel good about ignoring almost four decades of crap.

Why was it only 10th?


Sitting in a classroom day after day for the previous two decades probably took the shine off that idea, however one is entitled to change their mind.





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hurley_108 hurley_108:
mtbr mtbr:
Hurley... what do you think of kevin Taft?


I think he's the best thing going right now. The Liberals have pledged to eliminate the "health care" tax, invest royalties instead of frittering them away with cheques like Klein, and develop the infrastructure we need.


Sounds just like somebody else.........I thought Mason would be your man.


Health care tax maybe eliminated but remember that money just goes into general revenues anyway meaning some other taxation might be adjusted to compensate for the loss. Large companies stand to gain from the elimination of health care premiums as many of them pay it as a benefit for their employees.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:28 pm
 


mtbr mtbr:
hurley_108 hurley_108:
mtbr mtbr:
Hurley... what do you think of kevin Taft?


I think he's the best thing going right now. The Liberals have pledged to eliminate the "health care" tax, invest royalties instead of frittering them away with cheques like Klein, and develop the infrastructure we need.


Sounds just like somebody else.........I though Mason would be your man.


I may be a pie-in-the-sky socialist, but I am intelligent and pragmatic enough to realize that while Taft has a snowball's chance in hell of making a government this election, he's at least got a fridge. Mason hasn't even that. I want the PCs gone, so I support Taft.

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Health care tax maybe eliminated but remember that money just goes into general revenues anyway meaning some other taxation might be adjusted to compensate for the loss. Large companies stand to gain from the elimination of health care premiums as many of them pay it as a benefit for their employees.


We're running surplus enough every year to cover the premiums, so we wouldn't be at a loss if all we did was eliminate them. I would also hope that companies would be honest enough to recognize that paying the health care premiums of their employees is part of their compensation, and would pass the savings on to their employees by increasing their salary. The people pay this tax, not the companies. It's not the companies' place to make this their savings.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:29 pm
 


mtbr mtbr:
Sitting in a classroom day after day for the previous two decades probably took the shine off that idea, however one is entitled to change their mind.


So you weren't prepared to put in the 5+ years of university education required to become a teacher?





PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:32 pm
 


I guess its ABPC for you this election.. I'll bet Taft gets 5 more seats max than he's toast by the end of the year. :lol:





PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:32 pm
 


hurley_108 hurley_108:
mtbr mtbr:
Sitting in a classroom day after day for the previous two decades probably took the shine off that idea, however one is entitled to change their mind.


So you weren't prepared to put in the 5+ years of university education required to become a teacher?


At that time I wasn't.I took Business Admin instead.


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TORONTO — With a provincial election call expected soon, Alberta’s Liberal leader says he wants to boost Canada’s economy by letting other provinces profit from the oil boom.

Kevin Taft delivered his message for the Economic Club in Toronto amid speculation Alberta Premier Ed Stelmach could call an election within days.

Taft says a number of U.S. states currently process raw material from the Alberta oilsands but that work could be done elsewhere in Canada.

He says he wants Alberta’s spillover wealth from the oilsands to create jobs in this country.


Now that's a hell of a campaign speech, to bad the rest of Canada can't vote in our election. Does this idiot even know what office he's running for.

And I’d just like to thank the construction unions for there attack ads on Ed, this should be enough to help Ed get a majority again. I’m wondering if Ed will have to claim the Millions of wasted union dues, as campaign donations.

As far as the WRP goes the wheels seem to be falling off the bandwagon all ready with the President of the party quitting last week because of the in fighting going on there.



i'm sure they'd love kevin taft in toronto , but they can't vote in this election .

and whats with all these unions suddenly geting involved and running all these smear ads during provincial elections ?
they have lots of work out there , what do they have to complain about ?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:59 am
 


mtbr mtbr:
hurley_108 hurley_108:
mtbr mtbr:
Sitting in a classroom day after day for the previous two decades probably took the shine off that idea, however one is entitled to change their mind.


So you weren't prepared to put in the 5+ years of university education required to become a teacher?


At that time I wasn't.I took Business Admin instead.


Well there you go. You don't get to say, 20 years on, that teachers have it easy when you weren't prepared to do what was needed to become one. Why didn't you go back to school 15 years ago? Maybe because back then it wasn't quite so easy being a teacher, as Klein was coming through slashing the fuck out of everything? Teachers are just getting back all they gave up in years past.

Besides, you haven't answered my question as to whether or not your sister is still being paid her teacher's salary while she's off work pregnant. Summer vacations are funded by teachers accepting a lower salary every month than they'd demand for the other ten months if they didn't get it. And just because your sister has a lot of free time doesn't mean all teachers have a lot of free time. My dad was a teacher, a high school teacher. He'd do at least one or two hours of work at home every night preparing and grading tests, marking other assignments, preparing his lessons.

Furthermore, you've decided to focus on just this one issue and ignore the other dozen, which I'll repeat here:

$1:
The billions lost on uncollected royalties which were too low in the first place, and the piss-poor job of fixing them.

Refusing to build infrastructure in bad times because "there's no money" and when times are good refusing to build infrastructure because "it's too expensive." And even then, when they do build infrastructure they do it via P3 which is good for nothing but keeping the debt off the public books (because the passed an idiotic law making it illegal for them to run deficits) by shifting it over to private companies who make a profit on it, driving up the final price.

Promoting intensity based GHG emissions reductions that will accomplish nothing.

Getting drunk and going into homeless shelters and telling all the "bums" to "get jobs."

Deregulating electricity.

Insinuating public auto insurance would lead to a military coup (and plagiarizing while doing it to boot).

Entering into binding arbitration with the teachers' union and then refusing to adequately fund the arbiter's ruling.

Giving away thousands to golf courses in PC ridings.

Throwing a hissy fit and complaining the opposition are calling them liars when called to task on wasteful government airplane usage.

Frittering away 1.4 billion dollars on feel-good Ralph bucks.

Instituting health-care premiums which are just a flat-fee tax that goes directly into general revenue.

Pringing in publicly elected health care authorities only to then decide that that was too much democracy and appointing them.


What about all of those issues?


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