[sasquatch2]

Better to judged by twelve than carried by six.

[Freakinoldguy]

$1:

Two guys barging into your room likely justifies a beating, but not necessarily a killing.

And just how do you accomplish that? Your woken up out of a sound sleep with two intruders standing at the end of your bed and your supposed to leap up and beat them into submission, give me a break.

The only real course of action is the one that was taken. One guy and a girl against two ill intentioned criminals isn't good odds and knowing that they broke into your home is a good indication that they weren't there to discuss victims rights.

[Brenda]

$1:

knowing that they broke into your home is a good indication that they weren't there to discuss victims rights.

Legally however... Murder is murder, without looking at the circumstances, right? I mean, the man didn't die of natural causes, which makes it murder...

Justice is blind...

I really wonder what comes out of this.

I am kind of torn. I hate to see the guy go to jail because he defended his life, his girlfriends life and his property, but on the other hand, if this goes without any form of punishment, what will happen in the future? Can everybody just make up a story when he killed someone over nothing in his house, telling he broke in, even when that person was invited?

On the other hand... Nobody has any business in anybodies house...

I dunno...

[Gunnair]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

$1:

Two guys barging into your room likely justifies a beating, but not necessarily a killing.

And just how do you accomplish that? Your woken up out of a sound sleep with two intruders standing at the end of your bed and your supposed to leap up and beat them into submission, give me a break.

The only real course of action is the one that was taken. One guy and a girl against two ill intentioned criminals isn't good odds and knowing that they broke into your home is a good indication that they weren't there to discuss victims rights.

Pretty sure that if you can wake up out of the sound sleep and kill the intruder standing over you, you can wake up and hand him a beatin' as well.

As far as the course of action, that depends. Legally, your argument may not hold water if you can't justify your use of force, i.e. use of proportional force.

[Gunnair]

sasquatch2 sasquatch2:

Better to judged by twelve than carried by six.

I s'pose you could look at it that way. As long as your happy with your time in prison away from your family for a killing you couldn't ultimately justify.

A little bit of self control can accomplish the whole 'saving your family' thing, plus 'layin' a beatin' on the dummy in your house thing' and prevent you some long prison time.

[sasquatch2]

Gunnair

$1:

Pretty sure that if you can wake up out of the sound sleep and kill the intruder standing over you, you can wake up and hand him a beatin' as well.

As far as the course of action, that depends. Legally, your argument may not hold water if you can't justify your use of force, i.e. use of proportional force.

OK Then, "Bruce" would you care to demonstrate that before the court. I have at least one bud willing to tag team an idiot with your views. The Marquis of Queensbury rules do not apply.

[Gunnair]

sasquatch2 sasquatch2:

Gunnair

$1:

Pretty sure that if you can wake up out of the sound sleep and kill the intruder standing over you, you can wake up and hand him a beatin' as well.

As far as the course of action, that depends. Legally, your argument may not hold water if you can't justify your use of force, i.e. use of proportional force.

OK Then, "Bruce" would you care to demonstrate that before the court. I have at least one bud willing to tag team an idiot with your views. The Marquis of Queensbury rules do not apply.

Your friend doesn't look like he's up for much.

Try one of your imaginary friends instead.

[sasquatch2]

Very funny but a very weak evasion.

The point is and the courts recognize, that 1 individual is unlikely to lay a beating on an aggressive attacker in a surprise attack but laying a beating on two simultaneously is impossible.

But then again maybe you believe in unicorns.

[Gunnair]

sasquatch2 sasquatch2:

Very funny but a very weak evasion.

The point is and the courts recognize, that 1 individual is unlikely to lay a beating on an aggressive attacker in a surprise attack but laying a beating on two simultaneously is impossible.

But then again maybe you believe in unicorns.

Course I don't believe in unicorns, only sasquatches, and that's only because they make a lot of noise with a bit of chest thumping thrown in for show. Sheesh, get with it.

That being said, the point was also was to refute the assertion that layin' a beatin' was too difficult out of a sound sleep, and that it was ultimately easier, by following the logic, to simply kill 'em, which of course seems to defy some logic.

Unless of course you believe the courts find the whole 'killing out of a sound sleep' easier to accept than the inability to lay a beatin' out of the sound sleep.

[sasquatch2]

The courts (and jurys) put great store on the 2 against 1 odds argument.

[Gunnair]

sasquatch2 sasquatch2:

The courts (and jurys) put great store on the 2 against 1 odds argument.

Sure they do.