[Freakinoldguy]

llama66 llama66:

There is plenty not adding up here. I suspect this will be used to manufacture Cassius Beli against the Iranians; much like WMD's were created as an excuse to invade Iraq.

Only this time the enemy may actually have a WMD or two.

The first question to ask is did the either the Japanese ship, Japanese shipping company or the Japanese gov't request Iranian assistance to remove the unexploded mine. If they did then chances are that the Iranians didn't plant it but, if they didn't then there's a good chance that they or a satellite operative planted it.

Think about this for a second. There doesn't appear to have been any cursory inspection of the ships hull for other IED's or limpids by the Iranian vessel before they went straight to the mine and removed it. How the fuck would they know exactly where it was especially since that was one very large vessel?

[llama66]

So at the risk of sounding like the forum loon, how do we know the drone footage showed actual Iranian's removing the actual mine off the tanker?

That could've been filmed anywhere and digitally altered to support the claim that the Iranians are responsible for this.

[Freakinoldguy]

llama66 llama66:

So at the risk of sounding like the forum loon, how do we know the drone footage showed actual Iranian's removing the actual mine off the tanker?

That could've been filmed anywhere and digitally altered to support the claim that the Iranians are responsible for this.

Fair enough but you have an entire ships company for witnesses to the incident and unless you're one of those who believe the moon landing was faked I'd take their word for it.

[raydan]

I like seeing you guys pretend to know what's going on when you have no idea what's going on.




Sorry, couldn't resist... I'll go hide in the bathroom now.

[peck420]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Fair enough but you have an entire ships company for witnesses to the incident and unless you're one of those who believe the moon landing was faked I'd take their word for it.

The company has only stated that Iranian vessels were in the area, but they did not clarify if that was pre or post damages.

Here is my take:

A) The attacks have been extremely specific. They are designed to make a statement without causing any major damages, especially long term environmental ones.

My money is that it is a local player.

B) Iran had just received the Japanese Prime Minister, and a Japanese vessel was hit. Who would be hurt by a West-US resumption of the Iranian deal?

C) If Japan/Iran talks went well, Iran's agreement with West - US was conceivably back on the table.

D) There is one group that faces almost instant failure if Iran & West- US agreement is back on.

My money is this was carried out by the Houthi's.

If Iran and West-US play nice, one of the first concessions the west will demand will be Houthi and Syrian support abatement.

If the Houthi's loose Iranian support, I doubt they hold much longer vs the Saudi's.

They are the only group in the area that has nothing to lose from these attacks. And, they have gobs of Iranian gear to boot.

It's either that, or false flag BS, which I choose to believe none of our side participates in...for now.

[BartSimpson]

llama66 llama66:

So at the risk of sounding like the forum loon...

There's no risk of you sounding like the forum loon. There's a couple other people who are hard at work to secure the title and they're far ahead of you in that regard.

But the title for "Best Spitting Llama on CKA" seems to be a lock for you!

[llama66]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

llama66 llama66:

So at the risk of sounding like the forum loon, how do we know the drone footage showed actual Iranian's removing the actual mine off the tanker?

That could've been filmed anywhere and digitally altered to support the claim that the Iranians are responsible for this.

Fair enough but you have an entire ships company for witnesses to the incident and unless you're one of those who believe the moon landing was faked I'd take their word for it.

for the right price I will tell people whatever you want me to tell them....

[Freakinoldguy]

raydan raydan:

I like seeing you guys pretend to know what's going on when you have no idea what's going on.




Sorry, couldn't resist... I'll go hide in the bathroom now.

I know but it's alot of fun to make suppositions especially the wild ass ones because if past history is any indicator they usually turn out to be the most accurate ones.

[DrCaleb]

"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" - Mark Twain.

[raydan]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

raydan raydan:

I like seeing you guys pretend to know what's going on when you have no idea what's going on.




Sorry, couldn't resist... I'll go hide in the bathroom now.

I know but it's alot of fun to make suppositions especially the wild ass ones because if past history is any indicator they usually turn out to be the most accurate ones.

Most times, we never find out what really happened.

[peck420]

raydan raydan:

Most times, we never find out what really happened.

Well, it is exceptionally hard for one to maintain public support if they tell people the truth.

"Your sons died nobly for my 401K!"

Just doesn't ring so hot that way.

[Thanos]

Won't be the first or the last time that poor dupes ended up dying in order to increase some putrid shareholder's return on investment. It's part of the human condition.

[BeaverFever]

xerxes xerxes:

John Bolton knows where the “Mission Accomplished” banner is buried. Now the pentagon is working on top-secret technology to squeeze Trump’s fat ass into a flight suit. Time for another premature victory pageant followed by another 15 years of dead American soldiers, mass slaughter of civilians and epic levels of crimes against humanity.

[peck420]

Thanos Thanos:

Won't be the first or the last time that poor dupes ended up dying in order to increase some putrid shareholder's return on investment. It's part of the human condition.

All known life consumes until consumption = death. Adaption or extinction from there, the universe cares not.

Why we continue to pretend that we are 'different' is beyond me.

[N_Fiddledog]