[Tricks]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

SNC Lavalin is also a major government contractor, and reducing their stock price leaves them vulnerable to takeover. Do we really want sensitive information in foreign hands?

Do we allow them to break the law because of it? What kind of message does that send to other corporations? Have dirt on us and you can do whatever you want?

[DrCaleb]

Tricks Tricks:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

SNC Lavalin is also a major government contractor, and reducing their stock price leaves them vulnerable to takeover. Do we really want sensitive information in foreign hands?

Do we allow them to break the law because of it? What kind of message does that send to other corporations? Have dirt on us and you can do whatever you want?

They aren't charged with breaking the law in Canada. They broke Canadian law . . in Syria.

In Syria, that is how you get things done. If you want a permit, you have to slip the government drone a fiver. You want to build a building, it's going to cost a lot to grease the palms of everyone who wants in on that action.

Now, it was SNC's choice to do business in Syria, but let's not hold corrupt shitholes to the same standards we have.

[DrCaleb]

That might be Libya . . not Syria. Wrong corrupt shithole.

[peck420]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

They aren't charged with breaking the law in Canada. They broke Canadian law . . in Syria.

There is a reason why so many are trying to prevent a full investigation.

They have not been CAUGHT breaking the law in Canada. A full investigation would change that very quickly.

That isn't limited to SNC btw. You would see this same reaction if it was any major A/E or C firm.

As I stated in another post/thread, how things are done in Canada is never illegal when viewed individually, but my lord, the fallout if some of these organizations had their entire systems viewed, it goes from legal to illegal very very quickly.

[DrCaleb]

peck420 peck420:

As I stated in another post/thread, how things are done in Canada is never illegal when viewed individually, but my lord, the fallout if some of these organizations had their entire systems viewed, it goes from legal to illegal very very quickly.

I quite agree. We do it, we are just better at obfuscating it. Unless you are 'connected' and in Montreal.

But knowing it exists isn't proving it. When SNC gets charged with an offence committed in Canada, that's a different thing.

[llama66]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

peck420 peck420:

As I stated in another post/thread, how things are done in Canada is never illegal when viewed individually, but my lord, the fallout if some of these organizations had their entire systems viewed, it goes from legal to illegal very very quickly.

I quite agree. We do it, we are just better at obfuscating it. Unless you are 'connected' and in Montreal.

But knowing it exists isn't proving it. When SNC gets charged with an offence committed in Canada, that's a different thing.

Which is why Trudeau is expending so much political capital to prevent this from happening.

[DrCaleb]

That's his job though. Also why the legislative and judicial branches of government don't report to each other.

[peck420]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

But knowing it exists isn't proving it. When SNC gets charged with an offence committed in Canada, that's a different thing.

And here is the crux of the matter.

A small business or individual would never be given this kind of leeway. Protecting large players (from investigations) with excuses like 'potential job loses' does nothing but entrench these types of systems even deeper.

Not that there would actually be significant job loses. Just a change in the name plate, but hopefully, enough of a scare to prevent, god willing even a retraction, of the existing scams.

[BeaverFever]

llama66 llama66:

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

He forgot at say..."thousands of jobs for La Belle Province" but no mention of the thousands of jobs lost in Alberta.

Alberta is not in (Trudeau's) Canada. Trudeau's Canada consists of Quebec and sometimes the Maritimes, and Ontario; Manitoba, the Territories, and British Columbia occasionally; Saskatchewan very rarely... his Canada never includes Alberta. It must not include Alberta... after all those filthy Albertans hated his daddy.

FACT: Most of the 9,000 Canadian SNC jobs are not in Quebec

[llama66]

FACT: 100,000 Albertans are out of work and the federal government has not helped them like they've helped other, Quebec BASED companies.

[BeaverFever]

Robair Robair:

I agree with the overall sentiment.

However, I don't want Quebec losing jobs either. They'll just need more equalization...

That’s not how equalization works

[BeaverFever]

llama66 llama66:

Ideally no jobs should be lost. I think what grinds our gears is he moves heaven and earth for SNC-L and Bombardier, but goes meh for Alberta, then he goes here's legislation to further fuck the natural resource industries.

Canadians want the same effort paid for Quebec industries to be applied to other, non-Quebec based companies and Industries.

Didn’t he just spend $5 Billion to buy a pipeline for Albertans?

[llama66]

Great. Is it built? or will it die in the epic quagmire of red tape he created to stifle natural resource development in Canada?

[BeaverFever]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

SNC Lavalin is also a major government contractor, and reducing their stock price leaves them vulnerable to takeover. Do we really want sensitive information in foreign hands?

I’m not worried about that. Any private business is theoretically vulnerable to takeover at any time and domestic private corporations are no more trustworthy than foreign ones.

[DrCaleb]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

SNC Lavalin is also a major government contractor, and reducing their stock price leaves them vulnerable to takeover. Do we really want sensitive information in foreign hands?

I’m not worried about that. Any private business is theoretically vulnerable to takeover at any time and domestic private corporations are no more trustworthy than foreign ones.

There are also Private industries we trust with matters of National Security. See: MacDonald Detwiler.