[FieryVulpine]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Ship them to Guantanamo first. You can violate any rights if you put them there.

Show them this and they'll beg for a waterboarding.

[DrCaleb]

I would.

[martin14]

llama66 llama66:

We have politicians lying, government split along party lines, and leaders that are more interested in virtue signalling and propaganda spinning. Even the people are turning on each other. The world today is worse off than even 10 years ago. Nations are reverting to attitudes not held since the 1930's, the west and its culture looks to be in rapid decline.

People are getting angry, because some now see the governments are actively
working against their own population.

$1:

What put the west in its dominant position globally was its ability to wage war better than everyone else. The wars also "helped" us to appreciate what we had, it also gave the freedoms we had some weight, some merit. but since its been 73 years since the end of the war, many people have lost sight of the price paid for these freedoms.

Not going to derail this 'so called bomb' thread, so I'll just leave this tidbit,
maybe we discuss it later in another thread.
Talk about someone who has lost sight.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... mural.html

$1:

The president of a university students' union has been criticised for saying a mural in memory of First World War soldiers should be 'painted over' because it displays only 'white men'.
Emily Dawes, the head of the University of Southampton Students' Union, provoked outrage when she referred to the university's Rotherstein Mural as a 'mural of white men' and called for it to be taken down.
She tweeted: 'Mark my words - we're taking down the mural of white men in the uni Senate room, even if I have to paint over it myself.'
Both she and the students' union have since apologised for her comments after she was accused of abusing the free speech the soldiers fought and died to protect.

The mural that she is freaking out over, shows an unknown soldier getting his degree,
a tribute to the men who left university to go fight in WWI.

And she is crying because the mural is about white men.
She is not just some 1st year dumb twat,
she is President of the Students Union.

The "rot" goes incredibly deep, and will take a huge effort to fix it.


OK, rant over, back to the so called bomb thread. Sorry for the diversion.

[llama66]

martin14 martin14:

llama66 llama66:

We have politicians lying, government split along party lines, and leaders that are more interested in virtue signalling and propaganda spinning. Even the people are turning on each other. The world today is worse off than even 10 years ago. Nations are reverting to attitudes not held since the 1930's, the west and its culture looks to be in rapid decline.

People are getting angry, because some now see the governments are actively
working against their own population.

People are also turning on each other, I hold this forum up as evidence of such. There are days I seriously am depressed after reading some of the exchanges between folks. That's not the government "working" against the people. Its people who either don't want to listen to the other side. or simply don't give a shit And its not just one side, its both sides. Civility. Decency. Common Sense. All traits lost because its far easier to not listen and think, but to allow someone to tell you, to think for you. Both sides are buying into this idea of either "the media is bad, all latinos are criminals (or whatever)" Nationalist alarmist hoseshit; or the "White shame, BLM, #METOO" Identity Politics horseshit. Divide and Conquer.

The bombs are being placed out because on one side you have a lunatic for a president screeching about how the media is evil and only propagates "fake stories" and on the other the left is acting like equal fucking lunatics.

No fucking shit some mentally ill person has decided to take matters into his or her own hands. Its what they constantly been told. Jesus, the west has become the greatest clusterfuck of all time.

[fifeboy]

martin14 martin14:

And she is crying because the mural is about white men.
.

I’m sure this lady agrees with you.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

fifeboy fifeboy:

martin14 martin14:

And she is crying because the mural is about white men.
.

I’m sure this lady agrees with you.

This picture perfectly explains why I supported Sikhs wearing their turbans in the Legion halls. They weren't expected to remove them when they met personally with the King or Queen so why should they remove them in the mere presence of a picture of the Queen?

[fifeboy]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

fifeboy fifeboy:

martin14 martin14:

And she is crying because the mural is about white men.
.

I’m sure this lady agrees with you.

This picture perfectly explains why I supported Sikhs wearing their turbans in the Legion halls. They weren't expected to remove them when they met personally with the King or Queen so why should they remove them in the mere presence of a picture of the Queen?

Well said!

[MeganC]

I just wonder why none of the bombs work and why they were so easy to find? Like must the stupidest bomber ever or else they were not meant to work

[N_Fiddledog]

This Tweet is from a guy claiming to be an "Emmy winning news correspondent."

$1:

Adam Housley
‏
Verified account
@adamhousley

From fed source: “complete hoaxes” multiple wires when they only needed one. Reports of cell phones being involved was false. So no intention of harm. Now the questions. Dry run, or a false flag from the right or left trying to mess over the other side?

https://twitter.com/adamhousley/status/ ... wsrc%5Etfw

[martin14]

fifeboy fifeboy:

I’m sure this lady agrees with you.

Yes I am sure all those Sikhs were living in Britain and going to university in 1916.

*Mod Edit*

[N_Fiddledog]

$1:

Navy veteran and former bomb disposal officer Tom Sauer weighed in with his expertise and thinks these bombs are not much more sophisticated than Clock Boy’s “cool clock.”



“1. Proper pipe bombs don’t have wires connected to both ends. That’s dumb.

“2. You can find timers / remote control receivers WAY smaller than whatever that white box is. A proper timer would best be stored inside the pipe, making it fully encapsulated. That thing is just silly looking.

“3. ‘Hoax Devices’ are FAR more common than real ones. In which case, we should ask ourselves what the motives of the ‘bomber’ are and ‘who benefits?’

“4. Bottom Line: Whoever made that wanted it to be painfully obvious to anyone and everyone that it’s a ‘bomb.’ This is nearly the same as a bundle of road flares wrapped together with an old-timey alarm clock ticking away.”

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/10 ... y-looking/

[Robair]

"Rudimentary but functional" is how authorities described them.

So built stupid, but would blow your arm, leg or head off is how I interpret that description.

[N_Fiddledog]

Isn't it true that the only one that's been seen publicly is the CNN device?

That one's been described as "inert."

[llama66]

I don't think anyone is alleging that Carlos the Jackal or some member of the PIRA is behind this, iirc, the Anarchist Cookbook's bombs were simple in nature.

Funny story, my dad was a Royal Canadian Engineer, and when he left the service, he joined the police. He went on be one of the force's bomb-techs and ERT commander. Anyway, his partner and him were doing a exercise where they had to disarm a "bomb" the other had built. Dad chose to put a little bit of C4 (or another plastic explosive) in the bottom of a beer can (in a six pack) and have the detonator attached to the pull tab. dad also made sure the weight of the explosive matched the weight of the beer he took out. He even left a little beer in the can so it sounded like it was full. His partner chose a wine bottle and some how rigged it, but neither could diffuse the other's bomb. So, for years dad would leave a six-pack on this guys desk and he'd return the favor with a bottle of wine.

[N_Fiddledog]

The way I hear these things described is they're PVC pipe stuffed with gunpowder and glass or some other form of shrapnel but there doesn't appear to be any sort of ignition to the thing that could be depended on to work.