[Coach85]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Fact check time pay attention fellas

1) Minimum price Law came into effect in 1993 under the NDP: NOT a Liberal government

2) The increases were due to inflation:

It doesn't become more true the more you say it.

$1:

The move to raise the minimum price of beer in 2008 came in response to lobbying by the brewing industry after some companies, like Lakeport Brewing Co., began undercutting some of the major brands by pricing 24-packs of beer at $24.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ ... -1.1028440

$1:

The brewers’ association claims it supports minimum prices as a damper on excessive drinking. And yet floor prices are also quite handy in preventing bothersome competition. In 2008, following an apparent request from the brewing industry, Ontario quietly moved its minimum price from $24 a case to $25.60, thus shutting down popular “buck a beer” promotions by cheaper brands. This is how beer price wars are avoided.

Beer industry request behind rise in Ontario prices: document

$1:

The recent rise in the minimum price that can be charged for beer in Ontario followed successful lobbying by the brewing industry, an internal letter suggests.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ ... t-1.826800

That increase pushed up the price of 40 brands for the sake of avoiding competition.

[BeaverFever]

Coach85 Coach85:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Fact check time pay attention fellas

1) Minimum price Law came into effect in 1993 under the NDP: NOT a Liberal government

2) The increases were due to inflation:

It doesn't become more true the more you say it.

$1:

The move to raise the minimum price of beer in 2008 came in response to lobbying by the brewing industry after some companies, like Lakeport Brewing Co., began undercutting some of the major brands by pricing 24-packs of beer at $24.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ ... -1.1028440

$1:

The brewers’ association claims it supports minimum prices as a damper on excessive drinking. And yet floor prices are also quite handy in preventing bothersome competition. In 2008, following an apparent request from the brewing industry, Ontario quietly moved its minimum price from $24 a case to $25.60, thus shutting down popular “buck a beer” promotions by cheaper brands. This is how beer price wars are avoided.

Beer industry request behind rise in Ontario prices: document

$1:

The recent rise in the minimum price that can be charged for beer in Ontario followed successful lobbying by the brewing industry, an internal letter suggests.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ ... t-1.826800

That increase pushed up the price of 40 brands for the sake of avoiding competition.

So are the increases due to a left wing anti-business nanny state or are they due to corporate cronyism? Seems it can’t be both. Even your article raises doubt about what “industry” really means and how much weight it had in the decision. That’s 40 out of 400.

And again EVERY province has had these pricing laws for decades so explain how it’s all McGuint/Wynne’s fault.

[Thanos]

Looks from this end the entire policy is just petty protectionism of the sort that's ridiculously stymied interprovincial trade and reduced government revenue & market profit ever since, oh I don't know, about 1867 or so. Canada's pathetic and most likely permanent entanglement in silly regionalism writ larger than usual with this kind of nonsense.

[DrCaleb]

So, if the minimum price for a beer falls to $1 . . . which brewery is going to sacrifice quality and integrity to produce a beer for $1 a bottle?

"Schlitz Light"? "Pabst Yellow Ribbon"?

Welcome to "Political Theatre 101", where things are discussed, but nothing of consequence ever happens.

[Coach85]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

So are the increases due to a left wing anti-business nanny state or are they due to corporate cronyism? Seems it can’t be both. Even your article raises doubt about what “industry” really means and how much weight it had in the decision. That’s 40 out of 400.

It's a combination of both.

You've consistently told us that it was only due to inflation. It's not an issue of nannystate-ism or corporate lobbying when in fact, it appears both have had an effect on the pricing.

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

And again EVERY province has had these pricing laws for decades so explain how it’s all McGuint/Wynne’s fault.

I never said it was all their fault. After raising prices twice during their tenure along with all of the other nanny-state measures taken, I can understand why people are looking to move away from the 'we know best' mentality of the Ontario Liberals.

[CharlesAnthony]

There very thought of The Almighty Government commanding "Thou shalt not charge less than...." is beyond insane.

[Strutz]

On the lighter side...

$1:

Once I only have to pay a dollar for my beer, my life is sure to turn around in a big, big way!

For those of you Lib-tards who worried that Doug Ford lacked a clear platform to improve the lives of ordinary Ontarians, I present to you Exhibit “A” in the trial of Elites v. Folks: the brilliant Buck-a-Beer program – coming soon to a province near you. And I can only speak for myself, but I’m positive that this is just the thing to turn my life around in a big, big way.

No question, I’ve got issues. I’m unemployed, behind on my rent, and this rash just isn’t going away. Plus, the elimination of the sex-ed curriculum means I’m woefully prepared for when my 13 year old son realizes he’s gay. But hey, cheap beer!

Now that I’ll pay 25 cents less for garbage beer, I can do anything! Drinking more for less money is a winning combination and improves everyone’s life. Sure my wife is leaving me and suing for custody of the kids. And sure this lump on my back is growing at an alarming rate. And sure my emerging alcoholism is threatening to alienate me from friends and family. But none of that is something sucking down 12 Molsons in one sitting for $12 can’t fix.

Doug Ford is the guy who realized that the one thing everyone needed was more access to beer. None of that frou-frou wine that I’m sure those Wynne-lovers have with their caviar and lobster steaks while they tried to raise the ODSP payments I depend on. REAL Ontarians like beer. Beer and voting against their own interests.

Now, my lefty neighbour made some crack about something called “bread and circuses” when he heard about Buck-a-Beer. But what’s wrong with that?! Bread is delicious and circuses are fun! And beer is both those things. Seems like a little bread and circuses is EXACTLY what Ontario needs more of.

Oh yes, this is precisely what the doctor ordered. Soon I’ll be living the high life, just as Dougie promised. All the problems caused by my own personal failings and a system dangerously weighted against members of the lower class will simply melt away. All my issues, lost in time. Like tears in rain. Time to buy!

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2018/08/on ... g-big-way/

[herbie]

Ottawa brewery proposes its own Buck-a-Beer challenge